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I expect you get this a fair amount, so my apologies to begin with. Background - I have been course angler since I can remember with the odd day boat trip throughout the years. I have found myself exclusively lure fishing for Pike/Perch/Chub in the last couple of years and I feel like I am missing out a massive part of UK lure fishing by not branching out to bass. I live relatively close to Southampton/New Forest area.

Now on to the question, I want to get a decent starter setup for around 200 all in (Under would be better of course). I am guessing an 8ft with medium range of casting weight will be a good place to start, but after reading/looking/window shopping. I'm completely lost, so any advice would be great.

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I am in my 3rd season with lures , have definitely been caught with the addiction . I asked a similar question when I started out and eventually went with the Majorcraft First Cast rod ,10-30 g , which is the entry level rod from a recognised specialist manufacturer , to be honest I have not used anything else so cannot make a comparison but I was very pleased with it and it’s still the rod I use as have seen no need to upgrade . It’s somewhere around the £120 mark . I paired that with a Daiwa Ninja 4000 at about £60-65 , there are some deals about . This reel was an excellent starter but I have since upgraded to a Vanford , because that’s what we do , not because there was anything wrong with the Ninja it’s just a little more hard wearing and better able to handle salt water .
 

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Hi All

I expect you get this a fair amount, so my apologies to begin with. Background - I have been course angler since I can remember with the odd day boat trip throughout the years. I have found myself exclusively lure fishing for Pike/Perch/Chub in the last couple of years and I feel like I am missing out a massive part of UK lure fishing by not branching out to bass. I live relatively close to Southampton/New Forest area.

Now on to the question, I want to get a decent starter setup for around 200 all in (Under would be better of course). I am guessing an 8ft with medium range of casting weight will be a good place to start, but after reading/looking/window shopping. I'm completely lost, so any advice would be great.

Thanks
Personally if i had 200, i would get a shimano nasci and would pair it with a hto nebula 35g rod. I have been down daiwa route and am not a fan went back to shimano better line lay and doesnt melt when its had a splash. I have also had an old shimano spinning rod for about 10 years and has caught many fish with bait and lures 😁 if only cost like 30 quid but is rather floppy after you have had the chance to use hto nebula.

Good luck with your purchase.
 

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Thanks guys, just what I was after. In fact I might even have a spare Daiwa Ninja reel kicking round the shed I could use until I'm sure it's for me. 100% going for a 9ft Major Craft. Is there any preference to braid colour? Going to run a fluoro leader.

Does anyone run circle hooks on their hard lures? I do this with my freshwater lures, find it much easier on the fish and don't see a noticeable difference in hookup rate?
 

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Thanks guys, just what I was after. In fact I might even have a spare Daiwa Ninja reel kicking round the shed I could use until I'm sure it's for me. 100% going for a 9ft Major Craft. Is there any preference to braid colour? Going to run a fluoro leader.

Does anyone run circle hooks on their hard lures? I do this with my freshwater lures, find it much easier on the fish and don't see a noticeable difference in hookup rate?
I’ve had a Daiwa Ninja for over 3yrs. It’s only a backup to others and my lad uses it on occasion but it’s been a great bit for the price and it’s had it’s fair share of use. Not sure how others use/look after them but this one’s been great.
 

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Was in the Glasgow Angling Centre the other day and had a feel of the MajorCraft Ceana rod, really good quality/feeling rod at a killer price point! Again HTO Nebula is another option more pricey but the MajorCraft you can't go wrong with!! Daiwa Ninja or Fuego LT (Light and tough) is a good option for reels. Probably your best bet alongside a Shimano Nasci, never found an issue with braid colour (I fish a fluoro leader 30-50cm long) I like the brighter colour as it helps me see where I am fishing (distance etc) Sufix Carrier 8X braid or good old Daiwa J Braid! Majorcraft also do a good price 4 strand braid! Make sure to give the spool a bit of a soak every now and then as salt can get in the braid and weaken it over time.
 

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Great thanks for the advice all. Ceana ordered this morning, dug out my diawa ninja, it's the coarse 'match' version but I see little difference in specs to the 'spinning' versions. This will just see me through until I can justify upgrading to one of the other suggestions, probably the Shimano. Going to get my braid and leaders sorted now, and all the other bits to go with. Might even get a quick first trip in over the weekend.
 

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Single hooks and circle hooks is a whole new thread mate! :LOL:
I've used singles a lot, and semi circle hooks, but only use circle hooks for bait (because I've always thought the hits are so quick his miss them - that may be wrong).
 

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Yeah very true. I say circle hooks but I mean more singles with a fairly heavy curve. I'll give them a shot and see what my hookup rate is like.

All my starting gear sorted/ordered now, exciting times!
 

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Yeah very true. I say circle hooks but I mean more singles with a fairly heavy curve. I'll give them a shot and see what my hookup rate is like.

All my starting gear sorted/ordered now, exciting times!
I like the fairly heavy curve. Once hooked, unlikely to come off.
My current policy is to leave on the original trebles (unless they are low quality) until they rust, then replace appropriately.
Beware that a single hook can flap to one side or the other (a treble doesn't) i.e. it doesn't just hang, it turns the lure, and this can on some lures have a negative impact on behaviour.
 

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A single hook on the tail usually doesn't impact balance. But what I had been trying to do was not have 3 sets of trebles, so was replacing them all with singles and that wasn't always successful. Note that this wasn't about weight, took me years to realise that.
 

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Daiwa Ninja was my starter reel, cracking reels for the money and mine still works after two years having been dunked and sprayed multiple times. Just washing off in fresh after each session and to try and avoid direct saltwater exposure as much as possible though. Was in the shop last week and held the Ceana Bass, was impressed on initial impression, enjoy!
 

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Yeah I found the same with some of the Freshwater water lures I use. I don't mind switching new trebles out for singles, I'll save them for the lures that just don't like singles the whole length. I found cutting 1 of the hooks off the treble doesn't have the same impact as swapping out to just a single. My view is this would still be easier on the fish most of the time?

The Ceana has arrived and it's very impressive quality, can't wait to give it a try. Got a good selection of lures to try (probably lose). Are Rapala still rated? Thought they used to be huge in the UK, seem to largely see the Japanese lures being mentioned?

That said I did pick up a classic Rapala blue/silver jointed lure, couldn't help myself. Probably won't cast half the distance as most "modern" stuff.

Might get out tomorrow evening, I'll post back the results
 

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Yeah I found the same with some of the Freshwater water lures I use. I don't mind switching new trebles out for singles, I'll save them for the lures that just don't like singles the whole length. I found cutting 1 of the hooks off the treble doesn't have the same impact as swapping out to just a single. My view is this would still be easier on the fish most of the time?

The Ceana has arrived and it's very impressive quality, can't wait to give it a try. Got a good selection of lures to try (probably lose). Are Rapala still rated? Thought they used to be huge in the UK, seem to largely see the Japanese lures being mentioned?

That said I did pick up a classic Rapala blue/silver jointed lure, couldn't help myself. Probably won't cast half the distance as most "modern" stuff.

Might get out tomorrow evening, I'll post back the results
I fish across the solent from you, starting off I would get a 128 tackle House Feed Shallow in mullet, a patchinko 100 or 125 in 500g and either a black fish minnow or a savage gear sandeel that would cover most waters for now until you build your lure collection. The jointed rapala is a bit of a old classic I have them but don't fish them anymore but that doesn't mean to say they won't catch.
 

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I fish across the solent from you, starting off I would get a 128 tackle House Feed Shallow in mullet, a patchinko 100 or 125 in 500g and either a black fish minnow or a savage gear sandeel that would cover most waters for now until you build your lure collection. The jointed rapala is a bit of a old classic I have them but don't fish them anymore but that doesn't mean to say they won't catch.
Also from the other side of the Solent, I agree with those lures, cover most situations if not all that I face in southampton water. Few cheaper alternatives to the FBM that also work well, Drift shoal shads, Biscay minnows, DAM, but that 6g FBM shallow head is hard to beat. Tight lines,
 

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Got to Lepe around 6.20 and found the spots I had seen on Google Earth. Tide had been going out for about an hour or so. First 3 spots I tried, nothing. I was struggling badly with picking up weed and resorted to using just top water lures. Moved on to spot 4 on the way back to the car. First cast on a popper managed to snag one! To say I'm absolutely made up, is an understatement. Need to get myself some weedless softs and more top water lures for that spot.

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