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Hello, new to this rod build group. Always in East Coast so any advise would be apre:giveup:

Just built a new rod turner, all be myself i might add :) As im fed up of having to send rods off to have eyes replaced when thier iner rings pop.

Rod in question in a Century Excal (J), which i might also add does not have the best build quality i would expect for that price :uhuh:

The only good thing is that after contacting century they sent me the thred for free:notworthy

My question being;

Will it be a bad idea to use 5 min dry apoxy? People talk about the clarity of finish being a little clowdy'er, would not of thought it would make too much difference as the feet on the rings always brown out anyway in finish though time?

Will its use have any other adverse effect please??

Thnx in advance Karl
 

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Hello, new to this rod build group. Always in East Coast so any advise would be apre:giveup:

Just built a new rod turner, all be myself i might add :) As im fed up of having to send rods off to have eyes replaced when thier iner rings pop.

Rod in question in a Century Excal (J), which i might also add does not have the best build quality i would expect for that price :uhuh:

The only good thing is that after contacting century they sent me the thred for free:notworthy

My question being;

Will it be a bad idea to use 5 min dry apoxy? People talk about the clarity of finish being a little clowdy'er, would not of thought it would make too much difference as the feet on the rings always brown out anyway in finish though time?

Will its use have any other adverse effect please??

Thnx in advance Karl
Tbh I've noted a lot of century builds from the factory aren't that high quality, which is a shame for such a nice rod. Result on the thread mind!

Yep it's not a good idea for the 5 min epoxy as far as I know that's an epoxy adhesive not a high build varnish as such. Get the proper stuff and it'll last a good while. You mention the brown on the feet that usually happens when there's a crack or small gap in the build and salt water gets in.
 

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Use Diamond Sheen 2 part Polymer and fill in the gap where the ring leg meets the rod.
As said above, that will prevent rusting of the ring leg.
Diamond Sheen on eBay, about £10. Will do several rods.
Make sure the work area is warm, for best results
 

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Been re confirmed that the resin would be ok by Breakaways, where i bought it.

Is it def not to be used then, held off strippinging k'guides for replacement becuase of your guys kind advise!

Another question please! If i stip back the resin from the eys, will it take all of the wipping off, or is it best to do regardless and re wip??


Thanx again :)
 

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Been re confirmed that the resin would be ok by Breakaways, where i bought it.

Is it def not to be used then, held off strippinging k'guides for replacement becuase of your guys kind advise!

Another question please! If i stip back the resin from the eys, will it take all of the wipping off, or is it best to do regardless and re wip??

Thanx again :)
5 min epoxy is an adhesive so not sure why they are saying it'll work, for one it won't self level like high build epoxy does! Honestly mate don't use it, thought they'd know better selling rod building bits!

When you are removing the guides it will take the old thread with it and it pretty much peels off. Carefully cut along the guide foot towards the eye so you don't slip and cut into the blank, then you can get the rest off.
 

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5 min epoxy is an adhesive so not sure why they are saying it'll work, for one it won't self level like high build epoxy does! Honestly mate don't use it, thought they'd know better selling rod building bits!

When you are removing the guides it will take the old thread with it and it pretty much peels off. Carefully cut along the guide foot towards the eye so you don't slip and cut into the blank, then you can get the rest off.
Thanx son. They did advise its not the best, but it will work, and they have got other apoxy which ill purchase tomorrow :) Glad i waited it this is the case.

Their is allot of wipping on the rod, under wipping for the feet. Just wondered if id have to do the whole lot or not, as if i could of got away with not ty'ng the underwip, trims etc, i would of been a much happier bunny.

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Thanx son. They did advise its not the best, but it will work, and they have got other apoxy which ill purchase tomorrow :) Glad i waited it this is the case.

Their is allot of wipping on the rod, under wipping for the feet. Just wondered if id have to do the whole lot or not, as if i could of got away with not ty'ng the underwip, trims etc, i would of been a much happier bunny.

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You don't have to do the underwraps, they are for looks really. I do false ones quite often but mainly on butt guides. All personal preference though! As long as the main guide wrap is there, trims and other bits are all just aesthetics really mate.
 

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Help me again please :)

Bought some high build rod wrapping finish. Flex Coat :)

My rod turner i built, turns at slow speed of 1 turn every 17 seconds (3.6 tmp). Other gear goes prob 4 times that :( will the 3.6 be to slow????
 

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Help me again please :)

Bought some high build rod wrapping finish. Flex Coat :)

My rod turner i built, turns at slow speed of 1 turn every 17 seconds (3.6 tmp). Other gear goes prob 4 times that :( will the 3.6 be to slow????

Flex Coat is trade standard. 3.6 rpm will probably give you problems so switch up to the higher rpm, my own drying machines turn at 18rpm.
 

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It won't make the coat streak off then? Its a home made one. Ill check how many rev's with the additional gear added!!
 

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50 rpm!!! Is that too fast??? I can either go 3.6 or 50 rpm. Ahhhhhhhh! and i was so proud of my little build :(
 

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50 rpm!!! Is that too fast??? I can either go 3.6 or 50 rpm. Ahhhhhhhh! and i was so proud of my little build :(

Suppose you could use it, some of the large manufacturers use similar but personally never tried.

Stick a dimmer switch into the system, may (or may not) allow you to slow down a bit mind you I`m no spark but a dimmer switch has worked on rod lathes in the past.
 

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Which one? 3.5 or 50 rpm??

FYI need some need plasters from taking of the poxy epoxy :( lol
 

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:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::thumbs:karl you have me in stitches .your keen learner wish i could help bt can barley sew lol ,good luck mate,
 

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lol You out soon mate? Have to meet up, John and Matty are keen i think!

My sectary at work has drawn a smiley on me plasters, which are keeping me thumb together lol only thing that stoped the scaple was my nail. 'Twice!!' I ended up doing it again.

Ill post some pics whaen i get a mo. Of the project, not me thumb!
 
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