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can i call it a plaice session after all i was after em ,twice this week i have fished a good mark with two hook clip downs,1/0 hooks using lug ,peeler, eel and mackeral ,result not one bite on the bottom ,total catch one mackeral pushing 2lb,is there really any point in fishing daylight anymore?,seems to me that the bottom is like a desert,i know its early but there should be fish starting to show by now,is anyone else picking up any fish off the clean ground other than bass and dogs,
 

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can i call it a plaice session after all i was after em ,twice this week i have fished a good mark with two hook clip downs,1/0 hooks using lug ,peeler, eel and mackeral ,result not one bite on the bottom ,total catch one mackeral pushing 2lb,is there really any point in fishing daylight anymore?,seems to me that the bottom is like a desert,i know its early but there should be fish starting to show by now,is anyone else picking up any fish off the clean ground other than bass and dogs,
Stonking mackerel though! That is the biggest I know of in the County so far this year.:clap3:
 

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brave man eug, i havn't bothered with the bare sand spots yet, sticking to place with a bit of rock, hope it pays off and you get a great big spotty!
 

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You've got freakishly huge hands, LOL
you know what they say about big hands ;):clap2:
Had a great time, nice to meet up with RTF and Glassback, superb weather, unbelievable views, and a few flatties thrown in lol,
soz for adding to your post Eug, just saved making another thread thats all m8
 

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you know what they say about big hands ;):clap2:
Had a great time, nice to meet up with RTF and Glassback, superb weather, unbelievable views, and a few flatties thrown in lol,
soz for adding to your post Eug, just saved making another thread thats all m8
you carry on mate ,no prob:clap3:
 

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Sorry, I didnt even recognise that until is was pointed out eug,

yeah I know what they say about large hands........big gloves

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Sorry for jumping in on a beach casting thread (boat fisherman here), but surely catching from a beach uses the same theory as catching from a boat.

If there is a somethign of a feature, whether that be a rock, reef, headland, tide rip, sand bar, gulley, mussel bed, etc then it will draw fish to it and act like an oasis.
Whereas fishing clean empty featureless sand is much akin to fishing a desert.

We have all seen the National Geographic programmes of the open sea and life is thin on the ground. When you find it, there may be a small school, but in general all the action focuses around a feature.

Fishing a clean open beach must be much the same.
If you cast short to the scour at the bottom of the tide line then you'll have every chance, if you have the ability to cast long to the reef you know lies at 120 yards then you have every chance, but if you simply sit on an open beach and cast a lead aimlessly then you are working on pure luck?

It's the same on a boat, if I just take my boat straight into Weymouth Bay and drop the anchor I'll catch next to nothing, but by drifting a gravel bank, wreck or a reef I stand every chance of success.

Go snorkelling in the Summer and make a point of snorkelling across a clean open beach to get to a rocky mark and the difference will be amazing.
You'll see virtually nothing over the clean sand, maybe a small school of fry or possibly a solitary flattie. Get to the rocks and all of a sudden there will Pollack in the kelp, Bass hanging back in the distance, a few mullet crusing the surface and wrasse hiding in the crevaces.

Just opinions and views of a boat angler, and not suggesting that any of the contributors (or original author) do simply cast and hope, but I do know that many who view this thread will.

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hi tom yer you are right in what you are saying but one thing i would say is these fish are moving in to there breeding grounds and rays, turbot and plaice all like clean sand or shingle to lay up once you find were they lay up its easy i do tend to put things in a fishing bible i have had for years now and fish places when they should be spot on we all know when to fish and when not to fish for sertain fish but a lot of it is about lady luck something i have not a lot of lol lol a day like we had yesterday is great even if you do blank the cornish views more than make up for the lack of fish
 
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I agree totally that the fish lay up on clean ground, but that clean ground will be immediately the other side of a small bank or ridge. They will lay up waiting for food to be swept to them over the top of the "feature" in the tide.
Rarely will they simply settle down in a totally open area, they have no incentive to do this.

Again, sorry, but I'll use the boat fishing analogy. On Friday I was Plaice fishing on the Shambles. It was a very tough day to say the least and the conditions were less than pleasant.
When I set the drift up wrong we would drift for a couple of miles over featureless gravel bank and get nothing. When I got us to drift over the troughs and peaks we caught fish. The best one, of 4lb 4oz can be seen in the pic below.

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Totally agree with you there matey! do lots of snorkeling myself and all the fish sit over feature wether it be rock, kelp, shingle or just a few rocks.
 
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