Thanks for the feedback both. Well done with the Bass Zach, nice size. Usually have trips to suffolk for sole as I live in the midlands, sole I will give them a go too.. do they feed close in on top of the ledges at this mark? It's a bit of a trek but I just luv fishing over the peat ledges. Never had a problem with the farmer, always ok when I have bumped into him, and I always shut the gates. Cheers