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Does anyone know where I can get a diagram for a helicopter rig, I need to make a few but I can only find mention on c*rp forums
 

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Try "flying trace" too. That's usually used on boat with a 6ft hook length - a bit long for the beach but anything down to about 12ins can be used. In slack water I use one of those short plastic booms. It ensures that line doesn't catch on the lead. A swivel is fine though in the sea. The rig can be clipped up too for a bit more distance.
I've even seen them clipped up and down.

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I make mine up using tulip beads, but I would of thought that smarties or ferral crimps would be another good way. Tulip bead over a swivel on the bottom of the rig, with a swivel running through the main line and over the tulip, I personally use rig tube or a plastic straw type boom that neatly fits over the end of the swivel when using grippers.

http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/rigs/carprigs.htm
 

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thanks for all your help peeps but io give up that looks like too much faffing around for me
 

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there was one in last months total seafishing magazine. basically it is a standard flapper rig with a weight at top and bottom of trace to keep all hooks pinned to the seabed.
Anyone got a pic of one? Sounds like a good idea but im also thinking at the moment, without seeing a pic, that it sounds a little dangerous for casting. :g:
 

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Anyone got a pic of one? Sounds like a good idea but im also thinking at the moment, without seeing a pic, that it sounds a little dangerous for casting. :g:
They're not so easy to cast Baggy, as they tend to spin. Not a rig to blast out, just a gentle flick.
 

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Moonfleet angling are proud to announce the release of the stealth helicopter rig
The Apache helicopter rig can deliver your bait within seconds of deployment codes sent to the angler by an E3 Sentry at 38,000 ft. It can take on Ten Targets in one sweep.
The Moonfleet Apache helicopter rig can effect an attack in 30 seconds. The radar dome is unmasked for a single radar scan and then remasked. The processors determine the location, speed and direction of travel of a maximum of 256 targets.
The Moonfleet Apache helicopter rig is equipped with the Northrop Grumman millimetre-wave Longbow radar.
The Moonfleet Apache helicopter rig's Longbow fire control radar incorporates an integrated radar frequency interferometer for passive location and identification of radar-emitting threats. An advantage of millimetre wave is that it performs under poor-visibility conditions and is less sensitive to ground clutter. The short wavelength allows a very narrow beamwidth, which is resistant to countermeasures and more importantly Dogfish!
Is that enough info for you Pob?
Price? £32.000,000 for the basic model.
 

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does it cause freindly fire tho :D
 

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sorry i forgot to say it has a range of approximately 300 kilometers
Only when aimed at vehicles displaying the Union Flag. If not doing so they tend to home in on the Chinese Embassy in Bogata.
 

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Bloody Hell I should have patented this:blink:


I was told that what I'd been using was called a Helicopter rig but it's really not that complicated. Recently I've been using the 'Grays' range of ready-tied rigs, they're good quality and very cheap (£1.49 for a 2 hook flapper etc). I read somewhere a while back that weights top and bottom were a good idea so when I was flattie bashing one night I decided to try it in the immortal words of Blueskip, it casts 'like a bag of spanners' but I wasn't looking for any distance. Gemini weight clip on the end of the shockleader, clipped on a rig, then added a 2oz plain lead to the same clip, 40z on the bottom and away to go. It worked so I used it on the boat with 'skip the other day and cleaned up on the Dabs, while his more traditional bead laden rigs were not so successful.


BTW Ian, that's brilliant m8:clap3:




but are you sure you can bring them in for only £32m and make a living?
 

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Yup - I wish 'they' hadn't decided to call that rig (with top and bottom weights) a 'helicopter rig' because that name had been taken for a long time by the Carp rig that is basically a single hook flapper

Now what would you call the (bass fishing from boats, mainly) rig usually called the "Portland" - where the trace swivel is not loosely trapped between two beads (and crimps or stop knots) but trapped on about 1 foot of medium-heavy mono between two swivels ?

what's the advantage of that 1 foot, compared with 1/8 inch as in helicopter or flapper ?
 

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thanks for all your help peeps but io give up that looks like too much faffing around for me
its dead easy and all you need is your normal flapper rigs.

slide a drilled bullet about 1oz onto your leader then re tie your clip or swivel. just clip your rig on as normal. use a lead 1oz lighter than you normally would.

you can now change rigs without needing to add leads or make a special rig.
 

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Same thing i do from time to time DC. Works well at Hartlepool for dab and flounder of steetly and in the river Aln and Embleton beach. Perhaps it was even you who i saw doing it and copied from. Its a lot easier and simpler tahns tying a specialised rig up that crimps the smaller drilled lead in place with beads either side. The fact the lead slides helps to, as it prevents it snagging and can help movement sometimes.
 
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