[*Scott*]

On the advise of someone else, I would like to try out a good non magged clean beach multi.
Firstly, what kind of differences will I find ?
I am told a non magged multi with one brake block in, is all I will need on the beach.
At the moment I use a green mag elite and a 525 mag, and I feel that the amount of mag needed to avoid overuns at the start of the cast, is holding back the latter part of the cast. (does that make sense) although I don't think they are over braked, I can use multis confidently, but wonder if a centrifugal brake does the same.

Anyway, 2 choices are Abu Rocket or Daiwa 7ht(the black one).
Which is better, longer lived/durable ?
Thanks, Scott.

 

[OHTer]

On the advise of someone else, I would like to try out a good non magged clean beach multi.
Firstly, what kind of differences will I find ?
I am told a non magged multi with one brake block in, is all I will need on the beach.
At the moment I use a green mag elite and a 525 mag, and I feel that the amount of mag needed to avoid overuns at the start of the cast, is holding back the latter part of the cast. (does that make sense) although I don't think they are over braked, I can use multis confidently, but wonder if a centrifugal brake does the same.

Anyway, 2 choices are Abu Rocket or Daiwa 7ht(the black one).
Which is better, longer lived/durable ?
Thanks, Scott.

Of the 2, I'd pick the 7HT. Properly tuned, the rocket will probably cast further, but the 7HT is so user friendly it's a piece of cake to use, very good distances are achievable straight out of the box. Once you get used to it, blocks can easily be downsized or removed :thumbs:

 

[fishermanFigg]

On the advise of someone else, I would like to try out a good non magged clean beach multi.
Firstly, what kind of differences will I find ?
I am told a non magged multi with one brake block in, is all I will need on the beach.
At the moment I use a green mag elite and a 525 mag, and I feel that the amount of mag needed to avoid overuns at the start of the cast, is holding back the latter part of the cast. (does that make sense) although I don't think they are over braked, I can use multis confidently, but wonder if a centrifugal brake does the same.

Anyway, 2 choices are Abu Rocket or Daiwa 7ht(the black one).
Which is better, longer lived/durable ?
Thanks, Scott.

7 HT for me, I have both, the old rocket was built of solid igneous rock hewn from granite, smelted by Thor, or Odin.
The 7HT is a completely different animal, infact its not an animal at all, its a work of art machined to perfection. My son has one of the new Abu's lightweight and flexible, cast well though!

My one complaint about the 7HT is the handle size, boy it takes sometime reeling in, I would change that to a powerhandle for a start

FF

 

[*Scott*]

Thanks for replies.
I like the look of the 7ht too, has good reports from all have used them.

 

[Hunter's Moon]

7ht are so user friendly. I use one brake block in mine with tournament rocket fuel and the braking set to 2/3 on most occasions. I have never had a problem with them and they certainly get the bait out far enough for what I want.

 

[Mark(south)]

take the mags out of your mag elite and put a block in and see how you get on


i think that blocks will cut you distance more than mags though

 

[*Scott*]

take the mags out of your mag elite and put a block in and see how you get on


i think that blocks will cut you distance more than mags though

Now theres an idea :hammer:
I shall do that, Ahem However I now have a new 7HT on the way !
But, I shall certainly try the abu magless with a block in.
Good idea that man.

 

[carty]

my first ever multiplier was a 7ht , ive had no probs mastering it for a beginer,

 

[Bootster]

If the mags you need at the start of the cast are restricting it later on...then reduce the mags later in the cast! Oddly enough that's one of the main ideas behind them, they're adjustable.

You'll always find the main issue is at the start, the spool accelerates very quickly as the lead is released, but the lead will immediately lose speed as it's climbing due to a combination of factors. Probably the main one of these is gravity, but also wind resistance and drag from the rapidly increasing amount of line it's dragging behind it will also be significant.

Deceleration of the lead is most rapid at the start of the cast and therefore where overrun is most likely to occur. Get the mags on early, and then if you need to release them later in the cast.

However, having said that, the distance achieved by doing this is not in the tens of yards so might not actually make much difference on the beach if I'm honest.

Anyway, back to the question (finally); nothing wrong with the 7HT!!!

 

[Guest]

Got 7ht and Chrome Rocket, verylittle to choose between them fishing wise, although the power handle on the Rocket makes life a little easier.

 

[Codless]

Perhaps individual reels (of the same type) can and do vary, but personally, when casting with my own mag elite, at the start of the cast I have the mags set around 4 or less (which never gives any major problems), and then back them off (to almost no / very little mags) when the cast is well underway and then either thumb things or also slide it back. Takes a bit of practice that's all, but like was said by Bootster, they are fully adjustable and can be fully adjusted mid cast.

If your mag elite is running too fast, perhaps its just a case of setting it up better rather than going to the expense of another reel. You could, for example, stick Red label Rocket fuel in the bearings rather than the normal yellow and see if that tames it, or mess about with the end float of the spool (or both things).

 

[OHTer]

Perhaps individual reels (of the same type) can and do vary, but personally, when casting with my own mag elite, at the start of the cast I have the mags set around 4 or less (which never gives any major problems), and then back them off (to almost no / very little mags) when the cast is well underway and then either thumb things or also slide it back. Takes a bit of practice that's all, but like was said by Bootster, they are fully adjustable and can be fully adjusted mid cast.

If your mag elite is running too fast, perhaps its just a case of setting it up better rather than going to the expense of another reel. You could, for example, stick Red label Rocket fuel in the bearings rather than the normal yellow and see if that tames it, or mess about with the end float of the spool (or both things).

Good advice there. I just use standard 3-in-1, works fine, rarely (if ever) get birdies unless I crack off due to leader knot getting caught or giving up on me.

 

[Swifty49]

Line level as well as bearing oil and brake blocks has a significant effect on a reel's performance. Having a spool brimming with 15lb line in a lively reel is asking for trouble. I only ever fill the spool to within 3mm of the edge.

A brilliant thing about the C3 CT Mag is that when fishing at night, and unable to follow the flight of the lead, if I'm not needing maximum range, I just move the mags up to full and don't even have to thumb the spool when the lead hits the water. I usually fish with 2 brake blocks in the mag which helps with my snatchy casting!

In answer to the original question - Rocket or 7HT, it's a Rocket every time for me. Nobody does it better, or consistently longer, than Abu!

 

[are soles fish?]

try and get your hands on a pair of ABU small fibre blocks start with 2 in the 7ht and then 1, if you use .35 line and dont over fill it should cast very well and without hassle, if you would like a proper heads up to tuning the 7ht pm me your landline and i will give you a call, its simple but not obvious.

 

[*Scott*]

Thanks for replies.
I don't suffer with overuns too much with the mag elite, generally set on 4, but can run on 2 with wind behind.
Its not that I don't like the mag, just want to try something a little different, and I do need another clean beach reel, so the 7HT is on the way, will have a play and see which I prefer.
Tuning the 7ht is simple enough, but I am hoping just a block or two and some thin oil will suffice.
Will see how I get on.
Scott.