It must have been a quiet day on the Island

 

nice one dave, seems ive got a plan now lol

 

is that by the mod fence?

 

No, your fine fishing from the beach there mate. Hopefully meet a few new faces down the marina soon!!!

 

just seen this on the fisheries web page and it said there is no restrictions to shore anglers as long as they are reurned,here are the zone area.

 

any chance of having fisheries web page a bit bigger or a link cheers

 

dave it was a matter of time mate. there are also hefty fines that can be dished out for tresapassing too. if u decide to go there then u risk alot of hassle just for a few small bass. over the past yr ive found 3 other marks that all produce bass on spinners in the right conditions. u should fink urself lucky mate,they couldve taken u to the cleaners. weve got mates working out there nd they told us to keep away.

 

as thick as 2 planks here so where aren't you aloud to go?

 

As far as I'm aware thats crap! It's not unusual for the boys in blue to get that one wrong .. I left a Devon copper who came the same rubbish a couple of years back feeling rather embarrassed after he tried it with me and I got him to check his facts ... he was wrong. Boats are totally excluded from Bass fishing in nursery areas (and fishing with sandeel) but you are still allowed to fish from the shore and although you are "encouraged" to return all Bass it is not illegal to keep sizeable bass if you wish to.

http://www.anglingaddicts.co.uk/information/bass-nursery-areas/

http://www.cefas.co.uk/Publications/techrep/tech106.pdf

"Legislation introduced in 1994 to protect juvenile bass
applies all year round at several coastal sites. Fishing
for bass from a vessel is not permitted close to the Isle
of Grain and Kingsnorth Power Stations in the Medway,
in the Fleet, Dorset, and within a 1 mile radius of
Aberthaw Power Station, South Wales."

I'd suggest it would make life much easier for the next time you fish if you rang the local duty inspector and lodged a complaint that officers are misleading the public as to the law .... that way they tend to leave people alone because they don't want a formal complaint if they try it on with the wrong person. State of the tide has no bearing on things by the way ... as long as you have legal access to where you were fishing you are within your rights.

 

As far as I'm aware thats crap! It's not unusual for the boys in blue to get that one wrong .. I left a Devon copper who came the same rubbish a couple of years back feeling rather embarrassed after he tried it with me and I got him to check his facts ... he was wrong. Boats are totally excluded from Bass fishing in nursery areas (and fishing with sandeel) but you are still allowed to fish from the shore and although you are "encouraged" to return all Bass it is not illegal to keep sizeable bass if you wish to.

http://www.anglingaddicts.co.uk/information/bass-nursery-areas/

http://www.cefas.co.uk/Publications/techrep/tech106.pdf

"Legislation introduced in 1994 to protect juvenile bass
applies all year round at several coastal sites. Fishing
for bass from a vessel is not permitted close to the Isle
of Grain and Kingsnorth Power Stations in the Medway,
in the Fleet, Dorset, and within a 1 mile radius of
Aberthaw Power Station, South Wales."

I'd suggest it would make life much easier for the next time you fish if you rang the local duty inspector and lodged a complaint that officers are misleading the public as to the law .... that way they tend to leave people alone because they don't want a formal complaint if they try it on with the wrong person. State of the tide has no bearing on things by the way ... as long as you have legal access to where you were fishing you are within your rights.

Thats interesting. But i dont know if its worth the hassle to be honest. It is generally only schoolies, if i was catching 6/7lb bass maybe i would risk it lol As regards to the legal access lol hmmm... There is a sign on the fence saying no trespassing, but i didnt climb over it, i just walked around it lol who am i kidding i was trespassing!!

 

the issue is tresspassing. fences with signs saying keep out etc etc. theyre there for a reason. and have been for many yrs.

 

Not good news dave I know other anglers who have had their collar felt looks like I'll take my lures off the mar fish the ebb in between the legs us to pick up nice bass there and u get to fish with bait for a while until the ebb flows. Sad news to all. Any one want to buy a spinning rod : )

 

There is a sign on the fence saying no trespassing, but i didnt climb over it, i just walked around it lol who am i kidding i was trespassing!!

Trespass is trespass ..... they had the right to move you on for that fair enough ... but the bit about the nursery area was still wrong. Ultimately you are a taxpayer ... you pay their wages and you are entitled to have a police force that knows the law and doesn't make it up as they go along.

 

Its been coming for a long time dave i was out there crabbing with jamie last year mate and that rib come over and tried to get to us but cudnt find a way through the rocks!! they also send land based police out there now and the power station security to remove you from the area as its tresspasing. As for the issue of conservation i was secretary of the local fishing club bout 15yrs ago and we wrote to MAFF who at the time were the ppl concerned with the conservation before DEFRA and they sent us a map of the exclusion zone basically from grain beach thro the martello tower to garrison down to the ro-ro across to cockleshell beach this included shore angling for bass. We had to exclude them from matches as did tightlines when we had opens there.

 

Unlucky dave?

thats a cracking spot? but as you say it does state in local tide books the bass boundary area, but they never stop you fishing the foreshore for them tho? which is technically illegal as well.

Quess it was good whilst it lasted! pity they dont exercise the rules when it comes to all the people dropping gill nets around the river.

 

If I get a chance I will email the Marine unit and clarify this for everyone.

What I will add is that we all moan that the fishing is getting worse and worse due to netter's and then people go and fish in restricted nursery areas. :doh::doh::doh:

Look at the eels in the Medway, I know not many people like them but they were fished to almost nothing and now theres restrictions there is a very good chance of catching them.

As far as bass go ive never had much luck catching them anywhere so surely areas designed to preserve the stock are a good thing provided people don't exploit them.

 

but they never stop you fishing the foreshore for them tho? which is technically illegal as well.QUOTE]No it isn't ... it isn't illegal for you to fish for bass from the shore in a nursery area either ... unless of course you fish from the foreshore in a boat!

 

Just for everyones info I found this online it is a leaflet regarding bass fishing.

http://www.cefas.defra.gov.uk/publications/techrep/Bass.pdf

Page four it says there are no restrictions on fishing from the shore however it is encouraged that people fishing in these areas return fish.

Taking the odd one can't hurt but people that keep everything sizeable they catch probably isn't ideal as surely we want to preserve our stocks.

 

If I get a chance I will email the Marine unit and clarify this for everyone.

You might get more sense out of your Wildlife Liason Officer if Kent Police have one .... To be honest I'm not sure why anybody would need clarification .... certainly on the subject of shore anglers its pretty simple as you are not included in this peice of legislation! As UK legislation goes this bit is actually very simple. This is the original Statutory Instrument ... http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1990/1156/contents/made - which was varied to include the banning of any fishing using sandeels as bait http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/75/made .... this is where the confusion lies I reckon .... it amends the schedules to cover some "foreshores" .... what isn't changed is that this only applies to "vessels" ... ie BOATS.

 

they will be buggerd when the airport gets built the prats in the rib wont have a job by then.on the other hand you have a legal right under the magnacarter to fish crown land from high water mark.the only way this can be changed is an act of parliment so tell them to bog of.

 

the problem is its not from the high water mark, its from the low water mark. plus the main point of the matter this spot is on private land owned by e.o.n. and with the current terrorist threat the police whether they be land or sea are on alert. Our village is even partolled by armed police nowdays because of where it is situated

 

they will be buggerd when the airport gets built the prats in the rib wont have a job by then.on the other hand you have a legal right under the magnacarter to fish crown land from high water mark.the only way this can be changed is an act of parliment so tell them to bog of.

If only life were so simple. Statutory Instruments are what is called Delegated Legislation and are invoked by individuals or bodies that are delegated the powers to do so by various Acts of Parliament ... so long as the Instrument doesn't go beyond the authority provided for in the Act in Question (what the law terms Ultra Vires) then they are in fact part of that act and are completely enforceable!

On crown land currently, you have the right to fish in the sea for your own pot and it is not limited to the high tide line ... that confusion seems to come from the fact that private ownership can generally (but not exclusively) extend to the mean high water mark. In general everything below the mean low water mark is crown estate ... but again there are exceptions.

The upshot of all this is you need to be careful because its not a black and white area ... not by a long shot.

Interesting read if you are into this kind of thing ... http://www.sacn.org.uk/Articles/The_Public_Right_to_Fish.html

 

what terrorist threat? the one where a man with his rod cannot fish. its a rod for gods sake.oh yes i forgot common sense has gone out of the window nowdays.

 

The land around the fort is private property as stated above and if you love it that much buy it! Well if u have a million in your back pocket.

Wake up! Police officer numbers are dwindling, they wouldnt be telling you just for the crack of it, believe it or not they have better things to do.

The reality is IF YOU WERN'T BREAKING THE LAW YOU WOULDNT HAVE HAD A PROBLEM

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The land around the fort is private property as stated above and if you love it that much buy it! Well if u have a million in your back pocket.

Wake up! Police officer numbers are dwindling, they wouldnt be telling you just for the crack of it, believe it or not they have better things to do.

The reality is IF YOU WERN'T BREAKING THE LAW YOU WOULDNT HAVE HAD A PROBLEM

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Hi ya mate seems we got some new fiesty members on here wanna argue the toss,lol, Bass area mmmmmmmm. let me see, if they are left to grow then bigger one's for us all to catch eventauly,makes sense i would of thought, miss the boat fishing bud when is the wind ever going to stop.