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what shockleader should i use on a fixed spool?
tapered or not?
 

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It's down to personal preference.
I started using tapered recently but am still undedided, they are definitely better on the knot profile front but the problem of having the weak point the far side of the knot bothers me a bit.
 

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tapered - easy to tie (easy way is to clip end of shockldr to the line clip on reel spool - make a big circle with both lines - now pass spool through line ring about 6 times - pull & trim)
 

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thanks for the info
i am still a little undecided but i'll give tapered a try
 

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I tried tapered shock leaders last year.
Great for the knot - small size and does not pick as much weed - but I lost every leader when pulling free from the clay. (tied to same 035mm line)
I loose far fewer 60lb leaderstied directly to .35mm line but suffer more weed probs.
You pays your money and takes your chances.
 

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I tried tapered shock leaders last year.
Great for the knot - small size and does not pick as much weed - but I lost every leader when pulling free from the clay. (tied to same 035mm line)
I loose far fewer 60lb leaderstied directly to .35mm line but suffer more weed probs.
You pays your money and takes your chances.
Interesting experience I had last night at Orford, of which more later.

I have been using tapered leaders for the last 4 months.

Two problems:

1. If it is weedy they tend to break at the knot on the next cast, so change the leader, cut a bit off and re-tie after each session. Two crack offs in succession last night birdies, just whizz, hit the tip ring and snap.

2. If you are fishing a weedy area, the knot is 35 yards from the rod tip, if you have a fish on, and the knot gets stuck in the tip ring due to weed, you have a fish in the surf to try and handline in, when it is a reasonable fish, 5lb codling in my case, that is hard work. If you use 60lb straight to the mainline you will only have about 10 yards and the fish should be on the beach by then.
 

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Sound advice, i tried tapered leaders on a multi and found that i had a few crack offs when the knot hit the top ring. They also seem to get damaged alot more easily than normal shock leaders. I had to replace mine every 2 or 3 sessions (if i had not lost it!), which is why i eventually reverted to the normal 70lb shockleaders.
 

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I've tried tapered leaders and stopped using them and now stick with greased weasel for that and trace bodies.

On the tapered leaders daiwa tournament seemed to be the best to me but the end must be trimmed down to match the breaking strain of your main line. I think the daiwa ones go down to 10 or 12lbs. Best to go for a point which is a bit thicker than the main line.

John
 

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you wo't go far wrong with greased weasel....in my opinion!
 

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I personally have never had to use tapered leader. I dont seem to have a problem with the shockleader? I dont knwo why, i thought it was more of a problem with multis?
 

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Interesting experience I had last night at Orford, of which more later.

I have been using tapered leaders for the last 4 months.
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2. If you are fishing a weedy area, the knot is 35 yards from the rod tip, if you have a fish on, and the knot gets stuck in the tip ring due to weed, you have a fish in the surf to try and handline in, when it is a reasonable fish, 5lb codling in my case, that is hard work. If you use 60lb straight to the mainline you will only have about 10 yards and the fish should be on the beach by then.

35 Yards ! ! 39 feet (13 yards) more like ! That's the longest made.

and less than that, of course if you've already trimmed a yard or two from the thin end and a foot or two from next to the lead .
 

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35 Yards ! ! 39 feet (13 yards) more like ! That's the longest made.

and less than that, of course if you've already trimmed a yard or two from the thin end and a foot or two from next to the lead .

I will check but from memory the spool said each leader was 35 yards long
 

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I will check but from memory the spool said each leader was 35 yards long

I apologise, you are correct, 13 yards is the length, still a pain when the weed gets stuck in the tip ring and you have a fish on the other end and when the leader is used more than a few times it breaks at the leader side of the knot not the line side. Well it did with me. Anyway now going back to ordinary shock leaders, two lengths of the rod and five turns on the reel.
 

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i use tapered leaders for the most part, have done for about a year, they cast smoother, pick up less weed, less resistance in strong tides, great on piers as the knot/leader is usually well around the spool before lifting a fish, you don't need to think about pushing fat sharp leader knot to one side of the multi either,

sorry... i know you're talking fs ! i used them on both types of reel before going exclusively to multi reels,

only downside as far as i'm concerned....... fine weed will wrap up around the knot, and stop the knot coming thru the tip eye, meaning you have to walk backward up the beach to get you fish landed !

typically a fs rod wil have larger tip eyes than a multi rod, so should have less prob with weed stuck at the top,



Rich pickins..... can you explain why he'd be wasting his time ? i've used em very succesfully on fs reels.
 

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At present am using F/S set up,have changed to Daiwa Tournament 65lb---16lb
tapered leader with double grinner joining knot....strong little mutha..!!
beats hands down(for me anyway) a traditional 60lb shock with an Albright knot
which although good snapped on the 15lb red ice side when I pull for a break.
Now im moving into multi fishing......I shall see if it works as well..!!!!
Each to their own i guess.

Gaz :)
 
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