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Hey all,
Went fishing and spinning off of Shoreham east arm today and caught a lucky fish!!

The weed on the arm was horrific, loads of it and very stinky. Ledgered lug and did some spinning with feathers and a dexter. A few nice sized black bream were being caught, and some red bream (someone said red mullet, so not sure myself now), but these were very small indeed.

I was just spinning for a bit of fun and caught a nice sea trout about 20 yards from the arm on the inside of the harbor, very surprising for a dexter wedge, and i not caught one before, infact i have never even thought about catching one, not sure of the weight but people on the arm said it a good size for sea trout.

well chuffed!!!

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Well Done

The boys aint wrong and now the same applies to eels. Good luck to you nethertheless, one to be proud of and now you know for the future.

An envious RLD
 

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Nice looking Flounder fella ;):uhoh:;):rolleyes::whistling...Well done on the species note...Yes they would have been Red Mullet.

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Ahh yes! thats a shame i forgot about license stuff :(, know for next time.

Still got a smile on my face.

On the license note, what are you supposed to do, how do I not catch it?? and if I did catch it and it got damaged on the way in are u supposed to throw it back, to its death?

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Ahh yes! thats a shame i forgot about license stuff :(, know for next time.

Still got a smile on my face.

On the license note, what are you supposed to do, how do I not catch it?? and if I did catch it and it got damaged on the way in are u supposed to throw it back, to its death?

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yes that.s about it:busted_co
 

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Yip, its one of those "makes no sense at all" rules. Not illegal to catch, but you cant take it away with you unless you have a migratory fishes licence. There are quite a few Sea Trout around that size at the moment. Have seen a few in the river, and there was one in the marina last night on the inside. It is, I am afraid, a wee chap for a sea trout. The biggest one caught on the Ouse so far this year is 15lb.
 

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I received this from the Environmental Agency a couple of weeks ago.

" Thank you for your enquiry regarding our rod licences.

The need for a rod licence depends on the species of fish you are trying to catch.
If you are fishing for sea fish (bass, flounder, mullet) there is no need for a rod licence.

A rod licence is required when fishing for coarse fish, eels, salmon or sea trout anywhere in England or Wales and out to 6 miles at sea.

For enforcement, our staff will consider whether you are fishing at a location and with equipment liable to catch these species. If so we will enforce the licence requirement.

Sea Fisheries Committees have responsibilities for sea fishing up to 6 miles at sea. A list of Sea Fisheries Committees is available off the Association of Sea Fisheries Committees website.

Beyond 6 miles at sea, waters fall under international treaties.

For further information on rod licences please see our website:


http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/recreation/fishing/38077.aspx

I trust this information is of use. If you have any further queries please contact us and we will be happy to help.

Kind regards
Hannah Buswell

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Environment Agency
National Customer Contact Centre
08708 506 506
 

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That is crazy, but then i guess the dishonest among would just damage the trout, to justify taking it. Still it is ridiculous you would return a fish to certain death. Bureaucracy gone mad!

May have to hit the river ouse, since my house is practically on the river bank. I'll assume a dexter wedge is not normal for trout.

p.s. I do actually have a license for game fishing (well i do now anyway!! (guilt)), as well as a freshwater license.
 

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Aside from the trout, why do we need a licence to take an eel? As far as I remember from schooldays (some xxx years ago) the common european eel breeds in the Sargasso Sea. How does the enviroment agency lay claim to licence that?
 

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That is crazy, but then i guess the dishonest among would just damage the trout, to justify taking it. Still it is ridiculous you would return a fish to certain death. Bureaucracy gone mad!

May have to hit the river ouse, since my house is practically on the river bank. I'll assume a dexter wedge is not normal for trout.

p.s. I do actually have a license for game fishing (well i do now anyway!! (guilt)), as well as a freshwater license.
I would suggest you enlist the help of Robin (Fishyrob) as fishing the Ouse is not as easy as it looks, I live in Kingston so myself I am not to far away, but timing and methods mean so much.

All the best.

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That is crazy, but then i guess the dishonest among would just damage the trout, to justify taking it. Still it is ridiculous you would return a fish to certain death. Bureaucracy gone mad!
Think you gave us the reason there why it's not so crazy. As you may know the only fish that really get active protection are the game fish cos the toffs love 'em. Can you imagine what would happen if the rule was that you can net & angle for bass & mullet but must put Sea Trout & Salmon back if you catch them? They have to have a completely strict rule to avoid the exploitation of possble 'interpretation' of the rules.

The strict rule on sea trout and salmon is very handy for preventing the netting of Sussex rivers and does some (if only a little) good towards protecting bass and mullet.
 

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Hey all,
Went fishing and spinning off of Shoreham east arm today and caught a lucky fish!!

The weed on the arm was horrific, loads of it and very stinky. Ledgered lug and did some spinning with feathers and a dexter. A few nice sized black bream were being caught, and some red bream (someone said red mullet, so not sure myself now), but these were very small indeed.

I was just spinning for a bit of fun and caught a nice sea trout about 20 yards from the arm on the inside of the harbor, very surprising for a dexter wedge, and i not caught one before, infact i have never even thought about catching one, not sure of the weight but people on the arm said it a good size for sea trout.

well chuffed!!!

Link to my blog report
...what u have there is colloquialy known as school peal,herling or finnock.....a small sea trout !!! remarkeable catch well done...the ouse adur and arun produce dozens of double figure fish between them in a good year....!! the biggest this year so far was an early season 15lb 5 ozer !!!!!i gather in the first run may/june time....the second run if and when it happens is aug/sept..but not guaranteed ,fish will trickle in in dribs and drabs all summer long in most southern rivers......u cant fish o a p s waters this year simply because all 50 sea trout permits got snatched up quickly under the new club rules......i have never caught or seen one that small caught in the sea in sussex before...many in hampshire and elsewhere though !!adur bound i guess...??..sea lice on sea trout and salmon tend to drop off within a few days of entering fresh water,they do no harm,as far as yr blog the issue is migratory salmonids namely sea trout passing salmon fish farms have recently in the past become infected from the detritus washed out from same, chemicals,food stuffs etc...wild sea trout are less tolerable to these things it would seem...peachie48 and i had 2 on the ouse with a combined weight of 14 lbs +....to me they are the greatest angling prize in uk waters..ps.....sussex sea trout are viking travellers ??!!,..theres the clue to their migratory runs...up to the fresians and even the baltic...so its said.....well done again. foxy52
 

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We used to get loads of sea trout fishing maggot on the Hant Avon. They were a pain because we were barbel fishing. On the Royalty, I remember watching these giant trout jumping the great weir. You could have stuck a net out and they would have just jumped in.

I wonder if this happens these days Foxy?

This would have been around 1990.
 

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We used to get loads of sea trout fishing maggot on the Hant Avon. They were a pain because we were barbel fishing. On the Royalty, I remember watching these giant trout jumping the great weir. You could have stuck a net out and they would have just jumped in.

I wonder if this happens these days Foxy?

This would have been around 1990.
hi hf,..coarse anglers take sea trout on baits meant for other fish esp in the late summer autumn when they have been in the river some time and more susceptible to grub on offer !!!..worm and maggot esp..obv given said rivers support migratory trout because many are not clean enough to tolerate osmosis in salmonids.....pole anglers struggle as peachie would tell u as they r more powerfull than any other freshwater fish pound for pound.....barbel though a great sporting fish compared to chub ,even a pike is no match for a large fresh run sea trout crashing in and out of the water once hooked !! i love em...ps if u wanna know what the smutt fishing is like here at pres i popped down the beach yesterday to chat to s schui who was fishing with a mate .. ,!!! zzilch nada !!! not one fish of any type on crab !!! can u believe that ......even i have never ever completely blanked !!! thats a first !! no jellies or schoolies ....weird !!!! tite lines mate foxy52
 

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Yep, hooked one on the pole in a Henfield club comp one November up near Bines Bridge. what a laugh but it buggered my swim up for an hour or so. landed it after about 20mins estimated at about 7lb huge kype and as black as ink.
 
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