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Splash down / speed of bass hits

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How many times have you cast to a new spot , let the lure land , turned the handle and BANG fish on ...
Im not talking surface lures only either ,,, so many times its sort of makes you think , WOW , i must have landed that lure on its head ...

I have always wondered how far away the bass was , even though it hit 3 to 5 secs after it landed only a turn or two into the wind back ..

I think bass are a lot faster on the hunt than people think ,,, try reeling a lure like a mad man , i mean so totally fast you look silly ,

Your still catch bass no problem , mainly small but your catch ...

Does any one know a bass top speed , i have seen a flash of silver 30 ft away from a lure and a second later fish on :cc_surren

Has any one else , (not just surface ) had fish on a lure at splash down or just after ...

I would say for me a 10th of my fish come like this , so not just odd fish ....
 
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Bass catch macks a lot, so is likely to be more than double its top speed (+13mph ) or it wouldn't be a suitable prey as it would burn to much energy catching one.. :nerd:

http://journals.tubitak.gov.tr/zoology/issues/zoo-11-35-1/zoo-35-1-11-0811-6.pdf


logically comparing a bass to a red mullet and a sea bream as they are not prey is likely to be comparable as they have the same muscle density at are a summer fish or i should say in more numbers at the same times. A bream is more streamlined than a mullet so naturally faster. The maximum speed of a 16.9 cm red mullet in 26 degree water is 18.6 bl/s (body lengths/second) . A 11.5 cm Bream in 20 degree water is 16.7 bl/s

26 degrees divided by 20 degrees is 1.3
16.7 (bream) x 1.3 (making it 26 degrees) = 21.71 bl/s

So in 26 degree water theoretically a red mullet can swim 18.6 bl/s and a sea bream can swim at 21.7 bl/s. Simples.... taking than rule if a bass isn't as streamlined as a bream but more than a mullet taking a theoretical speed average : 18.6 + 21.7 / 2 = 20.15 bl/s in 26 degree water. Naturally the bigger the fish the more water drag there is and harder and sluggish the fish moves. as mark333 has said before a 4-6Lb bass fights the best. So taking a 60cm seems logical.

So with everything calculated. A 60cm Bass theoretically can swim 20.15 bl/s .......... 0.60 x 20.15 = 12.9 m/s ( 28mph ) add a bit of large fish (comparing the a bream and a red mullet) water drag it likely to be around 24-26mph thats Bursts not constant swimming.

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Bass catch macks a lot, so is likely to be more than double its top speed (+13mph ) or it wouldn't be a suitable prey as it would burn to much energy catching one.. :nerd:

http://journals.tubitak.gov.tr/zoology/issues/zoo-11-35-1/zoo-35-1-11-0811-6.pdf


logically comparing a bass to a red mullet and a sea bream as they are not prey is likely to be comparable as they have the same muscle density at are a summer fish or i should say in more numbers at the same times. A bream is more streamlined than a mullet so naturally faster. The maximum speed of a 16.9 cm red mullet in 26 degree water is 18.6 bl/s (body lengths/second) . A 11.5 cm Bream in 20 degree water is 16.7 bl/s

26 degrees divided by 20 degrees is 1.3
16.7 (bream) x 1.3 (making it 26 degrees) = 21.71 bl/s

So in 26 degree water theoretically a red mullet can swim 18.6 bl/s and a sea bream can swim at 21.7 bl/s. Simples.... taking than rule if a bass isn't as streamlined as a bream but more than a mullet taking a theoretical speed average : 18.6 + 21.7 / 2 = 20.15 bl/s in 26 degree water. Naturally the bigger the fish the more water drag there is and harder and sluggish the fish moves. as mark333 has said before a 4-6Lb bass fights the best. So taking a 60cm seems logical.

So with everything calculated. A 60cm Bass theoretically can swim 20.15 bl/s .......... 0.60 x 20.15 = 12.9 m/s ( 28mph ) add a bit of large fish (comparing the a bream and a red mullet) water drag it likely to be around 24-26mph thats Bursts not constant swimming.

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As you say they catch mac , LOTS and sand eel , so there burst of power over a short distance i always thought was off the scale .
Thanks for this post , even if we take your 24mph and kes 10 :cc_surren:nerd::fishing:and meet in the middle , im not eaten lure now :hypocrite

I have had a hooked bass run off drag faster than ten mile an hr for 30yards for sure ...
Joes 6 pounder after his double on new years day was un stop able for 40m ,,,
Bass are not hard fighters when you compare to fish abroad ,, but i think some people underestimate them imho
 
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As you say they catch mac , LOTS and sand eel , so there burst of power over a short distance i always thought was off the scale .
Thanks for this post , even if we take your 24mph and kes 10 :cc_surren:nerd::fishing:and meet in the middle , im not eaten lure now :hypocrite

I have had a hooked bass run off drag faster than ten mile an hr for 30yards for sure ...
Joes 6 pounder after his double on new years day was un stop able for 40m ,,,
Bass are not hard fighters when you compare to fish abroad ,, but i think some people underestimate them imho
Salmon hit 29mph and i've seen bass jumping 4 foot out the water attacking macks the same as salmon jumping up stream. They wouldn't be far off their speed, especially as they are a fast twitch fish. :nerd:
 
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If you watch fish in an aquarium attack, it really is faster than the eye can see. So if you have a lure close enough I reckon it could be almost instantaneous from maybe up to 10ft away. Don't forget they don't even have to reach the lure, most suck the lure toward them from a short distance away as they approach making it even quicker.

Last summer I had a decent fish reeling in a topwater at full speed after snagging a bit of weed.
 
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I personally thin we assume far to much & know far too little when it comes to bass, they are more robust & diligent than we think, I spoke to a guy in Ireland, who dives, he said bass often lurk or just mill about, then bang, when a food source is close by they suddenly switch on, true ambush predators, very similar to pike in that aspect, to learn about fish behaviour talk to a diver