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If theres a bit of surf on would the surface poppers be ineffective and would it be best to switch to sub-surface or even spinners in these conditions?
Also does the same apply when its a bit bright?

I'm just starting to get into this plugging mallarky and want to try and avoid making obvious mistakes.
Cheers in advance
 

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not much of surface lure afficianado myself, but the only time i've had any luck with them is when the sea was abit 'lumpy' at first light. Usually stick with spoons anyway but always fun to vary it a little. I will be trying more surface lures though as it seems some folk do rather well with them. Confidence is half the battle.
 

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If theres a bit of surf on would the surface poppers be ineffective and would it be best to switch to sub-surface or even spinners in these conditions?
Also does the same apply when its a bit bright?

I'm just starting to get into this plugging mallarky and want to try and avoid making obvious mistakes.
Cheers in advance
if its slightly choppy ,great time to pop , loud rattle , big faced poppers best ,for me , if rough , rough , i leave them be , and go below , with maria lasugunda , if slight ripple , use them all , but patchinco deadly :thumbs:
 

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If its a bit choppy I like using a good size popper,one with plenty of bouyancy (cant spell).
I like the larger ChugBug,,,,,,,have never fished the Patchinko in 'choppy' conditions but will give it a go asap.
 

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I've caught plenty of bass on the surface when it's less than calm, all the way from a slight ripple, to a big swell. I find it's harder with a walk-the-dog style lure (Sammy, Patchinko etc) when it gets rough but something like the Chug Bug or Yo Zuri Mag Popper (I prefer the 10cm size) is very effective. Even cheaper lures like Bass Busters can work. Another very effective surface lure when the water is active is the Cordell Pencil Popper. It's big, heavy, casts well and has a loud rattle. I had two good size bass take this lure yesterday and best of all they are only £5.99 (last time I looked anyhow) from Monster Tackle. It's not just the shiny, trendy and expensive plug porn that you read about that works - although I love my Patchinko and Feed Shallow. :hypocrite
 

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I've caught plenty of bass on the surface when it's less than calm, all the way from a slight ripple, to a big swell. I find it's harder with a walk-the-dog style lure (Sammy, Patchinko etc) when it gets rough but something like the Chug Bug or Yo Zuri Mag Popper (I prefer the 10cm size) is very effective. Even cheaper lures like Bass Busters can work. Another very effective surface lure when the water is active is the Cordell Pencil Popper. It's big, heavy, casts well and has a loud rattle. I had two good size bass take this lure yesterday and best of all they are only £5.99 (last time I looked anyhow) from Monster Tackle. It's not just the shiny, trendy and expensive plug porn that you read about that works - although I love my Patchinko and Feed Shallow. :hypocrite
I find the Cordell pencil popper hard to get to WTD it seems to work best when jerked all the way back in i must now try it in the rough
thanks dai
 

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I find the Cordell pencil popper hard to get to WTD it seems to work best when jerked all the way back in i must now try it in the rough
thanks dai
Dai, I just chug it and it spits and pops and dances side to side all on its own. I don't try a WTD action, just erratic retrieve with plenty of jerks. Works a treat for me, for all that it looks a very plain lure. Best colours for me seem to be the chrome with black back and chrome with blue back. The way it sits "head up" in the water allows it cope with some fairly lively water.
 

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Dai, I just chug it and it spits and pops and dances side to side all on its own. I don't try a WTD action, just erratic retrieve with plenty of jerks. Works a treat for me, for all that it looks a very plain lure. Best colours for me seem to be the chrome with black back and chrome with blue back. The way it sits "head up" in the water allows it cope with some fairly lively water.
Hi Griff
I have the chrome and black so will be trying it in the rougher water now looks like i'm out thursday [was going to be today but Ann fed Mik lastnight after i had fed him poor little sod is still puking now] so have decided to wait for the postman instead i have some bomber long A's and some bomber salt A's coming [they were cheap]
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Hi Griff
I have the chrome and black so will be trying it in the rougher water now looks like i'm out thursday [was going to be today but Ann fed Mik lastnight after i had fed him poor little sod is still puking now] so have decided to wait for the postman instead i have some bomber long A's and some bomber salt A's coming [they were cheap]
dai
Good luck, Dai. I would never have bought the Cordell lure, but it was a a free gift from Monster Tackle (shows how much I spent with them last year!) and it worked straight away. I can't say it looks like anything realistic, but the side to side movement, water it spits and loud rattle must all combine to call the bass in. It's no magic wand, but it has been surprisingly effective. Good luck Thursday - winds look light, but small tides. I am also likely to get out on the evening flood tide Thursday - see if I can find that big fish that missed my Patchinko on Saturday. Maybe he'll like the pencil popper...?
 

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Dam fickle things these Bass some days they won't look at anything other than a wedge toby or flying c other days they want the most expensive lure in the box i usually seem to leave the one they want at home
i learn something new every time i go out dai
 

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Dam fickle things these Bass some days they won't look at anything other than a wedge toby or flying c other days they want the most expensive lure in the box i usually seem to leave the one they want at home
i learn something new every time i go out dai

Dai, you have a PM.
 

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I've caught plenty of bass on the surface when it's less than calm, all the way from a slight ripple, to a big swell. I find it's harder with a walk-the-dog style lure (Sammy, Patchinko etc) when it gets rough but something like the Chug Bug or Yo Zuri Mag Popper (I prefer the 10cm size) is very effective. Even cheaper lures like Bass Busters can work. Another very effective surface lure when the water is active is the Cordell Pencil Popper. It's big, heavy, casts well and has a loud rattle. I had two good size bass take this lure yesterday and best of all they are only £5.99 (last time I looked anyhow) from Monster Tackle. It's not just the shiny, trendy and expensive plug porn that you read about that works - although I love my Patchinko and Feed Shallow. :hypocrite
I love the CPP as well and with a shorter rod have no problem WTD.
 

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I am sure Bass on south coast of UK can hear when I use my Pencil Popper! Its got one hell of a noise to it.
 

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I am sure Bass on south coast of UK can hear when I use my Pencil Popper! Its got one hell of a noise to it.
I do like the pencil popper but I agree that rattle is just too much especially in shallow water etc.
I think they should make PPs for our market,,,and loose the rattle.
 
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