Can anyone recommend a reel for uptiding? I was thinking something in the £50-70 range. Also anyone tried fixed spool reels for uptiding? Are they worth considering?
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Fixed spools are good for uptiding if the retrieve is slow, like 3.8:1 or so.
There are so many multipliers in your budget second hand for uptiding. New ones would limit you if that budget is the max.
Abu 7000, daiwa slosh 20 or 30, penn 525 mags, loads of reels!
There are so many multipliers in your budget second hand for uptiding. New ones would limit you if that budget is the max.
Abu 7000, daiwa slosh 20 or 30, penn 525 mags, loads of reels!
Simon F said:
Have do disagree with you matey,in water,deep and fast I always use a fix spool with braid for uptiding,much better in my opinion.And as for the abu7000c i couldnt comment as have never tried them!!
slosh 20 or 30
you can get them for £70 brand new and one of the best uptiding reels about.
very easy to cast and hard wearing it will take all the knocks you give it.
you can get them for £70 brand new and one of the best uptiding reels about.
very easy to cast and hard wearing it will take all the knocks you give it.
I use both fixed and multi for uptiding.
Preference being for a Daiwa sl20sh for Tope and the fixed spool (Daiwa infinity) for really fast running water.
The reason being, although both have nice smooth clutches for playing big fish, I find playing fish on the multi just 'feels' better, more comfortable.
The fixed spool comes into its own though,in fast tides (Mersey, in my case) where without a doubt its easier to cast further ... away, or uptide of the boat. The line also peels off the spool quicker, meaning your lead reaches the bottom quicker, therefore in a better position. I have never had any trouble with the retrieve on a fixed spool being too fast but there again I havn't used them on big Rays or Tope, the multi's are for that. saying that I have had loads of double figure Huss on mine, no problem. For sure, I wouldn't discount Fixed spools.
I also have an old (35years!) red Abu 7000 with a level wind, which is a fantastic reel but is not as good as my others for casting and used to occaisionally jam, with **** off the line gathering at the leader knot and the level wind, only a small point, but once lost me a good Cod on the mersey, so has been relagated to down tide duties only know.
My vote would be for a decent big carp reel for general uptiding and a multi for very big stuff. Just my opinion though.
Preference being for a Daiwa sl20sh for Tope and the fixed spool (Daiwa infinity) for really fast running water.
The reason being, although both have nice smooth clutches for playing big fish, I find playing fish on the multi just 'feels' better, more comfortable.
The fixed spool comes into its own though,in fast tides (Mersey, in my case) where without a doubt its easier to cast further ... away, or uptide of the boat. The line also peels off the spool quicker, meaning your lead reaches the bottom quicker, therefore in a better position. I have never had any trouble with the retrieve on a fixed spool being too fast but there again I havn't used them on big Rays or Tope, the multi's are for that. saying that I have had loads of double figure Huss on mine, no problem. For sure, I wouldn't discount Fixed spools.
I also have an old (35years!) red Abu 7000 with a level wind, which is a fantastic reel but is not as good as my others for casting and used to occaisionally jam, with **** off the line gathering at the leader knot and the level wind, only a small point, but once lost me a good Cod on the mersey, so has been relagated to down tide duties only know.
My vote would be for a decent big carp reel for general uptiding and a multi for very big stuff. Just my opinion though.
In general, Multiplier reels are better for Uptiding ... but fixed spool reels can be used for uptiding with equal or possibly better success when fishing shallow water's fishing on the drift for flatties
ask the Scottish International boat team if they are any good!
Of the best multiplier reels IMHO for around the £70 mark one sticks out more so than others ... and its the Penn 525GS
They are very underrated ... they are a better uptiding reel than the Penn 525 mag by a long shot ... if you were to pick the best casting reel of the two it would be the Mag but for uptiding its the Penn 525 GS .. the main reason is the Penn 525 GS is a tougher reel, they are designed differently, its not just a case of them adding magnets and calling the GS a mag.
The Penn 525 GS v Daiwa 20 slosh not a lot in it in really, the slosh 20s corrodes quite badly if left in anything but a dry salt free condition They sit high on the rod due to their inherent design. The gearbox design makes it that it can get in the way of you getting a firm grip on the spool, especially combined with the reel sitting so high as previously mentioned.
The Abu 7000 series are too wide unless you choose the Abu 7000 narrow, but this is a Taiwanese reel and it has had problems with reliability especially the drive pinion the small gear pinion that engages the spool . It also feels cheap and has a poor drag when compared too other reels in its class, once a world class reel in its day, but not anymore.
Its easy picking the best of the Slosh 30 and Penn 535 the Slosh 30 is the better of the duo.
I have used my Penn 525 GS for six hard seasons boat fishing and its been 100% reliable, the Slosh 20 I have used for two seasons boat fishing, the Slosh 30 for three seasons and neither are in as good a condition than the Penn 525 GS, and it has worked three times longer and harder than either Sloshes.
On the other hand the Penn 525 Mag needs the bearing changing every 12/18 months, they are far too small of a design as opposed to the GS, which are far more beefy.
For a max budget of £70 either will serve you well, and a cheap fixed spool is fine for those days your casting out and fishing fast, rolling a light lead around trying too locate those flatties, especially when using thin diameter braid :happy:
Of the best multiplier reels IMHO for around the £70 mark one sticks out more so than others ... and its the Penn 525GS
They are very underrated ... they are a better uptiding reel than the Penn 525 mag by a long shot ... if you were to pick the best casting reel of the two it would be the Mag but for uptiding its the Penn 525 GS .. the main reason is the Penn 525 GS is a tougher reel, they are designed differently, its not just a case of them adding magnets and calling the GS a mag.
The Penn 525 GS v Daiwa 20 slosh not a lot in it in really, the slosh 20s corrodes quite badly if left in anything but a dry salt free condition They sit high on the rod due to their inherent design. The gearbox design makes it that it can get in the way of you getting a firm grip on the spool, especially combined with the reel sitting so high as previously mentioned.
The Abu 7000 series are too wide unless you choose the Abu 7000 narrow, but this is a Taiwanese reel and it has had problems with reliability especially the drive pinion the small gear pinion that engages the spool . It also feels cheap and has a poor drag when compared too other reels in its class, once a world class reel in its day, but not anymore.
Its easy picking the best of the Slosh 30 and Penn 535 the Slosh 30 is the better of the duo.
I have used my Penn 525 GS for six hard seasons boat fishing and its been 100% reliable, the Slosh 20 I have used for two seasons boat fishing, the Slosh 30 for three seasons and neither are in as good a condition than the Penn 525 GS, and it has worked three times longer and harder than either Sloshes.
On the other hand the Penn 525 Mag needs the bearing changing every 12/18 months, they are far too small of a design as opposed to the GS, which are far more beefy.
For a max budget of £70 either will serve you well, and a cheap fixed spool is fine for those days your casting out and fishing fast, rolling a light lead around trying too locate those flatties, especially when using thin diameter braid :happy:
The ABU 7000 is certainly a fine reel but dont discount a Shimano 2000LD Charter Special.I use both and they are equally as good.The Shimano will last longer than the ABU as it doe's not have the alloy side plates to degrade.Saying that they will both go over 20 years so it probably dont really matter!
Well I don't think the tides scream through much stronger than the Bristol Channel where I fish and I would not give a fixed spool boat room ( maybe I've only used poor ones ) pumping a large fish against 4 kts I'm much happier with a Multiplier.
As for the casting! Well, I think you'll find its better done with a multiplier if you know how, if it is idiot proof casting, then yes a fixed spool is better.
As far as I'm aware, amongst most serious uptiders, the 7000C is the reel of choice for all sorts of reasons. But hey, each to his own.
As for the casting! Well, I think you'll find its better done with a multiplier if you know how, if it is idiot proof casting, then yes a fixed spool is better.
As far as I'm aware, amongst most serious uptiders, the 7000C is the reel of choice for all sorts of reasons. But hey, each to his own.
The ideal circumstance for uptiding with a fixed spool reel would possibly be a shallowish depths of say 6-12 ft with a 1 knot tide run .... the reel loaded with braid of say 15/18 B/S with a light lead, casting and letting it roll, covering as much ground as possible
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There are fixed spool reels that can handle the fierce run of the Bristol Channel, personally I would choose a multiplier reel every time when fishing such strong tidal rips, such as is at my local marks, but when the conditions allow its nice to try alternative options especially when they have been proved to be successful.
But as you have rightly said! ... each to his own:clap3:
There are fixed spool reels that can handle the fierce run of the Bristol Channel, personally I would choose a multiplier reel every time when fishing such strong tidal rips, such as is at my local marks, but when the conditions allow its nice to try alternative options especially when they have been proved to be successful.
It's certainly a choice of many serious uptiders, quite if its the most is debatable these days! 5/10 years ago, it would have been a certainty now? good all round reel with a reasonable amount of ability, but showing its age and ability when compared to whats on offer these days, mechanically and ability wise.
But as you have rightly said! ... each to his own:clap3:
Dave I also have a syncro and I am amzed at how few people use these reels considering how great they are. It is the nearest thing to a lever drag without the problems that most abu lever drags suffer, and as far as I know they all are made with the original brass sideplates and built to last! They cast well too.
Mine is one reel I'll never part with.
Mine is one reel I'll never part with.
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