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Anyone know where I can buy one of the copper bait pumps ? the ones with the silicon washers ? have a Avely 22mm but has no suction ? have tried taking washers out only using 2-3 washers but still no enough suction or can this pump be adapted to take silicon washers ?
 

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I think a lot of the copper ones you see are probably DIY jobs - I know there used to be a guy on Normans bay caravan site that made them. Personally I never found them great, particularly if the sand you're pumping in is gritty/stoney as the copper, being a 'soft' metal soon bends over. Don't know if you're anywhere near Anglers Den in Pevensey Bay, but I know they do replacement washers and can probably advise you.
 

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I think a lot of the copper ones you see are probably DIY jobs - I know there used to be a guy on Normans bay caravan site that made them. Personally I never found them great, particularly if the sand you're pumping in is gritty/stoney as the copper, being a 'soft' metal soon bends over. Don't know if you're anywhere near Anglers Den in Pevensey Bay, but I know they do replacement washers and can probably advise you.
cheers just ordered some silicon washers for 拢3 might help thank you
 

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Copper is junk don't bother they carode out in no time just get new Alvely washers and put silicone one in between them
cheers will try that been trying with Avely pump but the black washers in there are a bit crap!!! Was watching some lad on the sand the other evening think he said he was crab boy on wsf and he had a copper one with silicon washers and he made it look so easy and effortless but I still have to learn the technique!!!
 

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cheers will try that been trying with Avely pump but the black washers in there are a bit crap!!! Was watching some lad on the sand the other evening think he said he was crab boy on wsf and he had a copper one with silicon washers and he made it look so easy and effortless but I still have to learn the technique!!![/QUOTE

Once you get your pump working(think previous post mentioned talking to Alvey, they should be able to sort it over da phone).
Thinks its probably technique more than the pipe material.
There's loads of stuff on pooTube.
To spare you the time of bothering, pay careful attention to the angle from the Sea the fella who gets loads aims at (not 90'), can vary from different points of the beach (probably determined by tide flow ect...), try about 75-80 degree's towards you with the sea behind you.
Good luck mate, hope you catch some worm and lunkers to follow.
 

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I had allot of issues with getting a pump to work, and it was a combination of washer setup, and angle pumping. I found that testing the pump against the hand is no set in stone indication its going to work on the beach. I made my own steel one in the end, which also works just as well with the Copper pipe. The issue I had was the washers where to tough, so couldn't tighten the washer up too much for getting a good seal, as once the oil started to wash out, it was hard to pump. I ended up making my own washers from silicon glue, put into a cut off piece of copper tubing, I now hardly need to oil it, and it dont have to be tight, its effortless. The technique I was using was over the cast, this was very hit n miss, and on a good day id get 50 or so lug, or a bad was more like 10. Now I pump between 6-9" away from the cast, and a very high angle, 80 or more degrees, and im going home with allot more lug in much less time. If your cutting the lug in half, move further away, and dont go so deep first pump, once you have them coming out your know what depth and distance they are coming out. Also pick the right sand, some sand is too dry, experiment.

Hope your washers work ok for you.
 

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I had allot of issues with getting a pump to work, and it was a combination of washer setup, and angle pumping. I found that testing the pump against the hand is no set in stone indication its going to work on the beach. I made my own steel one in the end, which also works just as well with the Copper pipe. The issue I had was the washers where to tough, so couldn't tighten the washer up too much for getting a good seal, as once the oil started to wash out, it was hard to pump. I ended up making my own washers from silicon glue, put into a cut off piece of copper tubing, I now hardly need to oil it, and it dont have to be tight, its effortless. The technique I was using was over the cast, this was very hit n miss, and on a good day id get 50 or so lug, or a bad was more like 10. Now I pump between 6-9" away from the cast, and a very high angle, 80 or more degrees, and im going home with allot more lug in much less time. If your cutting the lug in half, move further away, and dont go so deep first pump, once you have them coming out your know what depth and distance they are coming out. Also pick the right sand, some sand is too dry, experiment. Hope your washers work ok for you.
cheers mate I made some new washers last night from bathroom sealant and managed 30 tonight last 30 mins I figured the technique out and was getting nearly every worm in 1 pump :) went out on hove beach near the view didn't see one other person pumping bait this evening ?
 

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I build stainless steel bait pump and found for washers best stuff is marine grade silicone can withstand a lot more plus with copper bore it can bend and twist so always best to go for stainless steel as will last longer
Is there a particular brand you use as I tried C.T.1 which I was told was marine grade, but it was way too brittle?

Thanks Dan.
 
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