[igo.t.crabbs]

fished bay 5 from 12 - 4pm

float fished green and pink squid jig = nothing

running ledger with king rag = nothing ( all worms left untounched )



i saw nowt else caught by any other fishermen, apart from one guy who caught a two pound seatrout whilst float fishing for garfish....... the sea trout was kept by the fisherman for hes tea :g:

 

[fishyrob]

In actual fact, Sussex Sea Fisheries got the nod and collared the guy fair and square. As luck would (or wouldnt, from the anglers point of view....) have it there was an ardent sea trout conservationist on the wall also!!! Twas tough though. Saw one cuttle dropped....

 

[igo.t.crabbs]

im glad he got found out...... the man in question was pleading dumb. to me; dumb just don't work

 

[north west piers]

Least you went out and give it a dam good goooooo.

 

[MrE]

im glad he got found out...... the man in question was pleading dumb. to me; dumb just don't work

Excuse my ignorance, but are you not allowed to keep them??? genuine question.

And was it dead when they spoke to him?

 

[igo.t.crabbs]

heavily protected.....and yes, it was certainly dead...being stuck in a bucket didnt help its recovery

 

[Drenai]

Excuse my ignorance, but are you not allowed to keep them??? genuine question.

And was it dead when they spoke to him?

you need a game licence for sea trout & sea salmon & should be returned without one ... even when dead.

 

[SALTYD40]

did nobody have the balls to go up to the guy and try and educate him on the rules & regs of keeping said fish before making the sneaky call it seems? ... whenever I ever see anybody take undersize or protected fish I would always polities let them know the reasons such fish have minimum sizes or are protected altogether, them if they still see it fit to keep the fish I'd be on the phone...

after all if someone wants to take up fishing, buys the gear & bait etc then sets off on his merry way who's there to let them know unless they read the back of a tide chart or join a forum like this?

maybe a few signs with size limits etc put up at popular pleasure fishing marks like the marina and shoreham arm are the way forward?

 

[Drenai]

with regard to signs on the marina it has been much discussed by Dave & the marina bosses. So far the marina have declined to allow extra signage on the breakwaters so heads have been put together for some alternative options.
One of those options will be the giving out of a business type card with MSL/suggested sizes for some of the local species. Dave has backed this initiative and is still pushing for some level of signs at the marina itself.

On seeing this trout caught had anyone considered alerting the duty warden ? or phoning the tacklebox to alert them there ?

With 2 walls to monitor the warden cant be in all places to see all fish landed & often relies on anglers good sense to alert them to issues.

 

[deason]

I'm with SALTYD40, someone should had confronted him, he was obviously a chancre.

Who'd want to eat sea trout anyway...

 

[MrE]

I was unaware of the law, but would not have kept it anyways, but whoever phoned the fisheries could have asked the question first. Regarding information... Why not put a flyer in everything sold from the shop. Easy peasy. Sizes and a few basic rules about taking rubbish away would not do any harm... A few bins on the arms wouldnt go amiss either....

 

[robnofish]

Interesting subject fellas, I'm only in my first year of sea fishing and have to admit that I had no idea of this rule, in fact yesterday my son and I were on shoreham west arm watching sea trout attack our baits on the retrieve, if I had hooked one I too would have considered it for the pot, thanks to forums such as this one I now know the sea trout rule and will happily inform others, thanks again, knowledge is power. Rob.

 

[Guest]

Some very odd comments being made on this thread regarding the "challenging" or "having balls to confront", and then a comment about "a sneaky phone call".

I for one have fished for a very long time but would not have the "balls" or confidence to confront someone, but would happily make a "sneaky" call to alert the proper authorities to whatever the indiscretion may be.

I have in the past seen a burglary in process but at the time didn't have the "balls" to confront the burglar and made a "sneaky" phone call to the police who arrived and arrested the person.

Where does it stop, in a perfect world you could just walk up to people and try to "educate" them on their wrong doings, unfortunately in this not so perfect world, "educating" can often lead to a punch on the nose, in this instance I think whoever made the "sneaky" phone call made the right choice and allowed the correct authorities to deal with this guy in the proper way.

If your the kind of person who doesn't mind challenging people committing offences then I applaud you and wish I had your "balls", but the advice from most parties would be to make the "sneaky" call and feel happy you have helped and live to fish another day.

Just a quick story that this reminded me of, on the news recently man (1) saw another man (2) loading shopping into the boot of his car which was parked in a disabled space, man (1) not seeing anything wrong with man (2) and had the "balls" to confront him, outcome was that man (2) had just walked ahead of his disabled wife, man (1) not knowing this and failing to educate properly punched man (2) once, causing him to fall over and bang his head resulting in his death, man (2)s wife arrives shortly after to find people trying to resuscitate her husband and full time carer.

Point of my rant is, it's great having the "balls" to confront and challenge people, but it can all turn very wrong very quickly no Matter how big your "balls" may be or how small the indiscretion may be.

Rant over.

 

[Drenai]

I was unaware of the law, but would not have kept it anyways, but whoever phoned the fisheries could have asked the question first. Regarding information... Why not put a flyer in everything sold from the shop.
Flyers in everything sold would be costly & litter creating

Easy peasy. Sizes and a few basic rules about taking rubbish away would not do any harm...
already posed re sign issues , its about re educating anglers
A few bins on the arms wouldnt go amiss either....

Re bins , they were removed from the walls as "anglers were dumping BBQ's (still lit) in them & fires became a big hazzard... gotta love the careful angler myth

 

[igo.t.crabbs]

he was informed of it being a sea trout.....he was informed that it should be returned (dead or alive ) .... he was informed it shouldnt be kept ... he was informed of prosecution .... thus the fellow was able to make an informed decision..........

 

[SALTYD40]

Some very odd comments being made on this thread regarding the "challenging" or "having balls to confront", and then a comment about "a sneaky phone call". I for one have fished for a very long time but would not have the "balls" or confidence to confront someone, but would happily make a "sneaky" call to alert the proper authorities to whatever the indiscretion may be. I have in the past seen a burglary in process but at the time didn't have the "balls" to confront the burglar and made a "sneaky" phone call to the police who arrived and arrested the person. Where does it stop, in a perfect world you could just walk up to people and try to "educate" them on their wrong doings, unfortunately in this not so perfect world, "educating" can often lead to a punch on the nose, in this instance I think whoever made the "sneaky" phone call made the right choice and allowed the correct authorities to deal with this guy in the proper way. If your the kind of person who doesn't mind challenging people committing offences then I applaud you and wish I had your "balls", but the advice from most parties would be to make the "sneaky" call and feel happy you have helped and live to fish another day. Just a quick story that this reminded me of, on the news recently man (1) saw another man (2) loading shopping into the boot of his car which was parked in a disabled space, man (1) not seeing anything wrong with man (2) and had the "balls" to confront him, outcome was that man (2) had just walked ahead of his disabled wife, man (1) not knowing this and failing to educate properly punched man (2) once, causing him to fall over and bang his head resulting in his death, man (2)s wife arrives shortly after to find people trying to resuscitate her husband and full time carer. Point of my rant is, it's great having the "balls" to confront and challenge people, but it can all turn very wrong very quickly no Matter how big your "balls" may be or how small the indiscretion may be. Rant over.

what's odd is comparing the taking of a protected fish against that of witnessing a burglary! my comments were obviously aimed at the fact it 'seemed' from the info provided he hadn't been spoken to in a polite way about the fish but that someone saw him take it so made a call instead of trying to educate the guy?!!

 

[SALTYD40]

he was informed of it being a sea trout.....he was informed that it should be returned (dead or alive ) .... he was informed it shouldnt be kept ... he was informed of prosecution .... thus the fellow was able to make an informed decision..........

thanks for this post... in that case the guy deserves any punishment handed out to him

 

[fishyrob]

did nobody have the balls to go up to the guy and try and educate him on the rules & regs of keeping said fish before making the sneaky call it seems?

The conversation went like this..... "Nice fish. You do realise its a sea trout kelt?" Reply..... "Yes"........... "You do realise that if you get caught with that there is a fine of up to 2000 pounds?"........ Reply...."But whos going to tell em......". Not a good thing to say to a bailiff with special interest in Sea Trout...............

 

[fnb]

Stupid thick question. If the guy did have a game license(about £100?) could he have legally retained said fish?

 

[Guest]

what's odd is comparing the taking of a protected fish against that of witnessing a burglary! my comments were obviously aimed at the fact it 'seemed' from the info provided he hadn't been spoken to in a polite way about the fish but that someone saw him take it so made a call instead of trying to educate the guy?!!

I knew you would pick up on that part and ignore everything else in the post.

It was not a comparison in anyway.

My point was simply that to make a comment about people not having the balls to confront someone doing something wrong, and in your words to make a "sneaky" phone, I think was a bit misplaced, and like I said where does it stop, if you heard of someone not confronting and trying to educate a shoplifter for instance, would you consider them to have "no balls" ?

Not everyone has "balls" or is confident enough to confront people, and on many occasions things have turned ugly when this has been done.

I was in no way trying to start an argument, I just think in the majority of cases whatever the crime, it's a good idea to make that sneaky phone call and save your balls for another day, and not consider the people who don't confront as being "ball less".

No offence was intended. .