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#8 ·
Hi harpo,

The boat in the pictures has got to be worth a hundred quid - heck you would pay that for a little tender down here. But I agree completely with alan t about that boat in open water.

Not only is it quite small for venturing 1½ (nautical) miles off shore, but it's got a planing hull and a fairly narrow beam, so it's going to bounce around an awful lot in anything but a flat calm sea.

So if you put an engine on which gives you, say, 10 knots it's going to take you about 10 minutes to get in from 1½ miles out at full speed, and if the sea turns turns choppy on you, as it frequently will, you'll have to slow down and it'll take you quite a bit longer than that to get home.

Honestly mate, if that situation were to occur it will be 10 minutes you don't want to experience with your heart pounding, the sea cutting up all round you, the boat slamming into the sea, your knuckles on one hand going white hanging onto the side of the boat, the other set of knuckles going white on the outboard tiller and your harbour looking a million miles away.

Like alan t I don't want to discourage you, but if you do buy the boat please do consider carefully where you are going to go with it.

Cheers, and good luck
 
#9 ·
harpo said:
this boat is 12ft long 5ft wide and 2ft deep going to be used around mumbles, what type of boat is it and what size outboard would i need.is it worth £100


Harpo, I'd just keep saving your cash m8. I too would love a boat but wouldn't feel safe venturing to sea in a dingy like that. I think that to enjoy your fishing you also need to feel safe.

I'm saving up hard and hope to have one in a few years.....One that I can enjoy in the waters around Scotland for many years.

Hope this helps, I don't mean to put a dampner on your enthusiasum.

P.S. A bloke on this site got a 27 foot creel boat for £600...it was advertised at 3k... I bit of shrewed negotiating I think...lucky sod...:D
 
#10 ·
harpo said:

nobody has told me the make of boat i need to know come on chrisp and you blueskip or anyone else who knows the make of this boat
 
#11 ·
No idea what make it is, sorry. Did not reply as you have had the most sensible advice given. If even a charter boat was to pass you in it at speed you would need to know how to take the wake from it, get it wrong or say you were fishing on the anchor at the time and you are in a world of trouble.

Fine as a tender, fine on smaller lakes and very sheltered estuarys, probably Ok for open sea 4 days out of the year. Probable max engine 6hp.

I know I am going to get grief for the last para. :eek:hnoes:
 
#12 ·
Well initially I thought she looked Dell Quay(ish)? she has a planing hull so is capable of getting a move on, so many firms made this type of dinghy, she could be by anybody. I reckon a 9.9HP would be ample big enough, anything over 6HP should be adequate for where you intend going, outer moorings, Blin Hole, Strombus maybe, & definitely trolling around the lighthouse in the summer, maybe even as far as Langland for the bream if the weather is kind.
Dont forget to take an auxillary motor, in your case at 12ft a set of oars! I will look out for you & swamp you with my wake (an old Birmingham Navy trick), dont forget your lifejacket!
She is most certainly worth £100 a v.good buy at that price, trailer is worth that! all you need is another grand now to kit her out!
blueskip
 
#13 ·
Hi, Harpo, For me Blue skip has just about said it all. The hull is very much like a Bass boat at the front end ,She obvoulsly has plaining caperbility . Looks to me much like the american Dory desighn . I recon for what you describe your intended use a 6 or 8 HP would be fine. I know small boats need a better weather forcast but one advantage is on quiet summer evenings you can launch for a couple of hours Makereling or Bassing ,with little effort. Also early mornings and be home before the the onshore breezes get up. Like all boats stay within your caperbility and that of the boat and you will have loads of fun. At the price snatch the mans hand off. You could always stick it on E Bay and and least treble your money. Good luck . Pinchers.
 
#14 ·
harpo said:
nobody has told me the make of boat i need to know come on chrisp and you blueskip or anyone else who knows the make of this boat

I wouldnt bother finding out. At a glance I'd say max 25hp on it, but that'd be really pushing it in any seas over a couple of feet high as you'll flip it when seated astern using a tiller. 10-15hp would be ideal-but that'd have to be a 2-stroke motor as the 4-strokes would be too heavy.

I wouldn't take that anywhere near the Mumbles. You'll get in SERIOUS trouble. For that kind of area/distance you need wheel steering and an unsinkable hull with BIG bouyancy tanks or a rigid hulled inflatable if you want a boat that size to use that far out.

It's worth £100 though as long as the transom isnt soggy/rotten and the hull skins aren't full of water. If you can't lift either end of it easily by hand then walk away. You'd still make £150 for i on ebay-I wouldnt expect much more for a bare shell.
 
#15 ·
The man from Wiltshire obviously knows the Mumbles better than me, I have been fishing it for years in my 13 footer, oblivious to the dangers that lurk there?
As Chrisp said you will get your 4-7 days per summer, & the tip about evenings & early mornings is spot on, most of my trips were 3-4 hrs early morning or after tea, launch/recover on the top slip at any state with a 12/13ft, back home before I get up to go!
The other side of the coin though, is that I can go, & stay, where you cant, I can do the Cherrystones, Pwll Ddu, Oxwich Point, nowadays, but I had many, many, hours of fun in my 13ft Dell Quay, & a few "hairy" moments to boot, when I thought I was cleverer than a 4K run, & a force 4 SW!
blueskip
 
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#16 ·
She should carry a small metal "CE Plate"

CE ratings are as follows:

A is pretty much a self contained liveaboard with huge range (transatlantic etc)

B is capable of serious offshore work and is stated as capable of "Wave heights up to and including 4 metres and winds of force 8"

C is what most trailerable boats from 14ish to 23 feet will be and is stated as "Wave heights up to and including 2 metres and winds of force 6"

D is inland waterways, lakes and smal estuary's etc.

Although I am not sure what boat it is it will be almost 100% CE Category D.

If her condition is as good as the photo then she is worth £100 of anyones cash, however I would not take her out in any form of open seaway.
In addition, you may really struggle with insurance payout (the boats - so what? £100, but more importantly public liabilty) if you did have an accident.

Tom
 
#17 ·
blueskip said:
The man from Wiltshire obviously knows the Mumbles better than me, I have been fishing it for years in my 13 footer, oblivious to the dangers that lurk there?

Wasn't really trying to say I knew the Mumbles better than you-but I HAVE sailed the area in the past. The point was really that this guy is obviously an inexperienced skipper (he wouldn't be looking at a £100 boat and asking about engine sizes otherwise) and it takes experience to be able to handle a boat that size in any kind of seas-and the Mumbles isn't the calmest place when it gets going-therefore the better option would be to buy something that's bigger and more capable...