[Darth Cod]

Hi guys,

I was hoping you might be able to give me a few tips on how to fish rough ground and minimise tackle losses.

I was down at Dunbar on Monday and was losing tackle every cast which hacked me off so much I gave up after about two hours :cc_surren . Cost me a small fortune in lead, hooks, rigs etc.

I know rough ground marks are meant to be amongst the best to fish so could do with some advice.

Thanks

 

[captainmorgans1]

Would suggest pulley rigs with rotten bottoms, gives you the most chance of getting out of snags IMHO. I like to float fish so would highly suggest big cigar sea floats depending on depth and target species of course.

 

[pompy.bass.man]

i agree pully rigs are got or the rottom bottom rig. it so if you hook a fish you only lose the wieght, and not the fish

 

[sunfish 43]

Pulley rigs with r/bottoms are good,but i also use a running ledger with r/bottom as thats about a minimal on tackle as you can get,gives me a choice then.Aj.:huh:

 

[FogAllan]

Pulley rigs with r/bottoms are good,but i also use a running ledger with r/bottom as thats about a minimal on tackle as you can get,gives me a choice then.Aj.:huh:

I'll second that, all you need is two swivels, a lead and a hook. Almost as good is a rotten bottom paternoster using just a three-way swivel, even if you do lose the whole rig its seemples to make another!:wiggle: and be back in the water in no time!:fishing1:

 

[dave1957]

Also use a single softish hook,like a Mustad Viking.It will bend out.
Don,t use pennels or two hook rigs as these get stuck in kelp more than your lead.
A heavy reel like a Slosh 30 with 35lb straight through, if your not power casting is also better.

 

[sunfish 43]

I'll second that, all you need is two swivels, a lead and a hook. Almost as good is a rotten bottom paternoster using just a three-way swivel, even if you do lose the whole rig its seemples to make another!:wiggle: and be back in the water in no time!:fishing1:

But i do not use swivels unless congering,i make my own set up,1 lead,1bead,2 bits of wire and a hook,thats it.Aj.
:doh:

 

[Codhead Bob]

If you don't like losing gear,then fishing kelpy marks is probably a bad idea in general because you just will,and that's all there is to it.Some days you'll lose virtually nothing,and another day on the same spot you'll lose bucketfulls.Rotten bottoms are fine if you don't mind losing sinkers all day,and soft hooks to my mind are just asking to lose any decent fish you get.Try pulling a 5 or 6lb red cod,or a 3 or 4lb wrasse through kelp with a soft hook? not me. Keep rigs as simple as possible,use 30 or even 35lb line straight through if you're casting inside 50/60 yards or so,and have a go at making your own leads which will mean a hook and swivel will be all you'll lose when you snag.And you will.Often.

 

[FogAllan]

nice AJ, thats even more simple than I thought possible! thats got me thinking...is a swivel necessary...suppose not...:doh:

 

[Darth Cod]

Thanks guys.

As you know I'm a beginner so is there any diagrams to show what these rigs you're all talking about - pennels, paternosters running ledgers etc - look like? And how do you fit a rotten bottom on to your rig so the lead doesn't fly off when you cast?

 

[spikydog]

a rotten bottom is a small clip were the lead hangs during casting , it comes of the clip when it hits the water , BUT the clip is attached by light line , 10lb ,its weaker than your main line and shock leader , so when you hit a snag , it breaks off loosing your lead but NOT YOUR CATCH !
ask for them in the tackle shop , they will show you how they attach
hope this helps , also try useing old spark plugs as weights
spiky

 

[basshunter1991]

Thanks guys.

As you know I'm a beginner so is there any diagrams to show what these rigs you're all talking about - pennels, paternosters running ledgers etc - look like? And how do you fit a rotten bottom on to your rig so the lead doesn't fly off when you cast?

easiest rotten bottom method is an elastic band, thread thru the eye of the lead about half way, pull the band over the whole lead, and pull tight.

dont whack the cast out though as the band may snap, but if u do get caught up the band will snap and u will only lose ur lead

or attatch a swivel and a weak piece of line to ur lead, attatch the swivel to the end of ur rig, or wherever the lead should be.

anpther cheap n easy method is to use pebbles with holes in, use em as replacement leads. just tie some line thru the hole, n attatch a swivel or whatever ur using.

and just type sea rigs into google or a specific rig, and itl come up with loads of pages with variations etc

hope this helps

 

[mosseydog]

Yes ask at your local shop or maybe buy some good ones premade so you can see how they work. Ian Houltons moonfleet rigs are good and he'll quite happily talk you through them too.

Get down your mark on low water on the spring tides if its safe and go collecting yours and everyone elses leads back, stay safe though.

 

[dod nae cod]

Thanks guys.

As you know I'm a beginner so is there any diagrams to show what these rigs you're all talking about - pennels, paternosters running ledgers etc - look like? And how do you fit a rotten bottom on to your rig so the lead doesn't fly off when you cast?

try having a look here http://www.moonfleet-angling.com/moonfleet_shore_rigs.html