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I was responding to another thread on this site and I wondered about what's wrong with our sport. Many of us would consider and list many common features, such as, Commercial gill neters, litter louts and dogfish kicking louts. I put those down without thinking but when I thought a bit more I decided that a fourth would be : Average Keen Sea Anglers (AKSA)

I just wonder if many of us, me included very near the top, occasionally have double standards. We're in a rush so we forget about not wrecking a rocky beach and leave rocks upside down when we've been after peelers, or we try a liitle too hard to extract a 'valuable' hook that's been swallowed by a small fish and kill it in the process. We dig more bait than we really need and finish up throwing it away, probably into a litter bin (we never leave litter on the beach do we?) At least if it went back in the sea it would go around in the same food cycle! We decide that a quick pound is to be got by selling fish we catch down the pub or the nearest Chinese restaurant or worst of all throw it away because we only took it home to prove we caught something.

I could think of more but it's not the individual 'crimes' that I want to highlight. Its
the very simple suggestion that, "It doesn't include me" when we do something that, had it been someone else, we would have criticised! How guilty are we all, in a small way but culminatively, as anglers, IN A BIG WAY!

Do we need to clean up our own act before we decide to clean up that of others?

Here's a little example. I was on Hythe beach (next to Brighton?) last February with my two infant grand daughters - (we were looking for some hoody teenagers to stalk and attack actually) The sun was shining and of course I had to show the girls the fishing! Some lads were at it and told me they were after Bass they'd heard were about (yes February! - talk about the soft South!) I thought what a pity I couldn't join them but then I was on Grandad patrol! Then a about 200 yds up the beach I watched a little 14' inboard launch being winched up the beach (lovely little boat!) so I drew nearer, being a nosy so-and-so! I took the enclosed photo. The older bloke with the boat was with his grand son and had had a great time, fishing, as you can see. The gill net was not hidden and I'm sure they did not consider that what they had been doing "300yds off the beach" was just 'good fun'. I say this because as they climbed into their Range Rover they did not look like typical commercial fishermen. I could be totally wrong and find that they were licensed etc. However I feel that the Bass they had caught finished up on the Barby but wonder how many of them found their way into the menus of local Hotels? In this case I cannot make any allegations as I do not have any proof. Mind you I bet the lads down the beach would have enjoyed just hooking ONE of the many Bass in that box, and talked about nothing else for weeks, whereas the boat owner and his grand son thought nothing of it and just disposed of the fish.

But how often do we fall into the trap of allowing our 'sport' to earn money.

Does it concern you, or don't the 'rules' include you?
 

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i fish for the peace and quiet and beauty of the sea...nothing more!..A Fish is a bonus..9 times out of ten said fish goes home to tell his mates!....

Ive only ever taken 5 fish home!(white"Ting")


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Very true,
I have ended up killing fish trying to remove hooks, or when your off the pier and the tides out, then the drop kills them.
Sometime when I've bought an undersize fish in and it has been on the way out I just knock it on the head and use it for bait, is this wrong?
I have to say I am guilty of almost all of those things.
I have taken a large number of fish home and all bar a couple were eaten.

I love eating fresh fish, as well as rabbit, pigeon, pheasant... I do alot of shooting as well as various forms of fishing and i have to say the same rules as regards conservation in sea fishing are extremely similar in shooting circles.
Pick up and read 'Sporting Gun' or any other shooting magizene and you wil find the same sorts of problems and issues, along with the same points of view.

People talk about clipping or wounding animals and what are maximum ranges etc. as if it never happens to them, or that they are never tempted to take longer shots than they should, IT DOES AND THEY DO, just like everyone is guilty of the sins you mentioned Swelleyman. People are afraid to compare shooting and fishing in the same league incase some of the negative press 'rubs' of and is placed on fishing, which is in no way under the same pressure.
Surely by sticking together a united frront would be much stronger.

Sorry I think that might be a bit off course,
but rant over.
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Thanks for the input and i'm glad you agree that we all do things, perhaps without thinking. BUT .. the point of my thread was to suggest that everyone of us needs to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT rather than just shrugging our shoulders and continuing to criticise everyone else!!! I'm aware that I do this which was why I wrote the thread, and yes it's painful but not as bad as burying my head in the seashore.
 

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Swelleyman,

I agree with your point, but surely this does not just apply to fishing.

A much abused word today is "Respect". The politicians abuse it all the time but to them it is just another buzzword. You and I are of a similiar age. We were brought up to respect others and our environment. If I went home and told my mum that a neighbour and clipped my ear, she would give me another one and then asked what nuisance I had committed. Today it would result in a court case. The children know this and use it.

If they are not taught by their parent to have repect for other people what hope is there for ceartures and the environment.

However we must not be defeatist. Keep plugging Swelley, we might just get the message over.

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hi i go out to enjoy fishing,but some people dont,they give us fishing men a bad name,how had is it to pick your rubbish,put back rooks,we need people to resect are sport.shaggy
 
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