Most of the fish are in the shallow water 50yards out. If you are any kind of fisherman you will know this, instead there is miles and miles of shock leader on the sea bed. The old saying is, you put our own house in order first, let’s give the public less to pull us up on. Before you have a good rant at me, have a think first?
Why do you need shock leader
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Shock leaders, have always been a nonsense, imagine fishing ground that continually necessitated tying a new one on. Safety is paramount and crowded venues with the public in attendance is so important.
Rubbish left at venues after crack offs and snags more often than not have shocks attached. The debris at such local venues eg Knab and West Pier have often a dogfish attached and alive.
This disgusts anglers and even more the public, but it happens.
Also another issue is dogs eating traces and having hooks embedded.
We can use common sense, continental methods need clean ground.
Straight through mono or braid at higher braking strains give you a chance of recovering terminal tackle.
A whole new approach should be considered to help stop fishing debris being deposited in our seas.
Personally I have used braid for many years, shock leaders have their place, but I don't like finding tackle at popular venues with lots of line attached often a danger to wildlife and with a writhing dogfish attached.
Rubbish left at venues after crack offs and snags more often than not have shocks attached. The debris at such local venues eg Knab and West Pier have often a dogfish attached and alive.
This disgusts anglers and even more the public, but it happens.
Also another issue is dogs eating traces and having hooks embedded.
We can use common sense, continental methods need clean ground.
Straight through mono or braid at higher braking strains give you a chance of recovering terminal tackle.
A whole new approach should be considered to help stop fishing debris being deposited in our seas.
Personally I have used braid for many years, shock leaders have their place, but I don't like finding tackle at popular venues with lots of line attached often a danger to wildlife and with a writhing dogfish attached.
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thanks Nick, I am glad that you are a plain fisherman and I call you a fisherman because a fisherman as got to work hard to buy his gear but a Angler thinks he can fish because he as the super duper gear, but 90% of them are bluffers. Keep on fishing simple, Mike
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thanks Nick, I am glad that you are a plain fisherman and I call you a fisherman because a fisherman as got to work hard to buy his gear but a Angler thinks he can fish because he as the super duper gear, but 90% of them are bluffers. Keep on fishing simple, Mike
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I don't own "super duper gear" but i still use a shock leader.
Chucking a 5 or 6 oz + lead without one is just being irresponsible and dangerous to other beach users IMO.
Imagine cracking off and all that weight flying through the air and hitting someone.
Chucking a 5 or 6 oz + lead without one is just being irresponsible and dangerous to other beach users IMO.
Imagine cracking off and all that weight flying through the air and hitting someone.
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You are dead right, fishermen owe it to fishermen to keep clear. The Swansea pier and the nab is like a dumping ground we won’t be happy until they stop as fishing there, we be to blame thanks Mike
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You are dead right, sorry all you brilliant fisher person
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Thanks, 12ft bass rod 30lb braid, 2oz lead if you can’t get it out 75 to 100y walk 100y it’s a long way, I’ve had 4 codling so far, perhaps you are doing it right and I should have had 8 doing it by betting it out 150y (in my dreams) bass, cod I must be lucky, thanks Mike
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I wish i fished somewhere local that i could get away with using 2oz of lead. If i tried that on the Bristol Channel i would have my rig roll into a snag every time. It's not just about casting distance, it's being able to hold bottom without your rig rolling in the tide.
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I fish the Bristol Channel on a kayak in my boat and mainly of the rocks, carry a roll of insulation tape there’s lots of pebbles around put your link on the pebble and cast it out it will come into the rocks, it will get stuck but pull slowly and your link will pull out and you got your trace back, the fish look around the rocks for food, all the time in your pocket a roll of insulation tape, try it. You’ve got nothing to lose just lots of leads, Mike
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I see far more main line on beaches and rock marks than shock. Shock tends to break up easier due to its rigidity over mono being flimsy. I think the argument the thread started should look more at rubbish and nets than line 😘
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Dai. Mike you are dead right, I’m not one of those people that complains about fishing line because I’ve been there, done it but as long as we put our house in order first and stop the public have a go at us, we’ll be on the right track. We got to get the public on our side, not against us, thank Dai
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All summer on the sandy snag free beaches I never use a shock. I'm braid straight through. Normally 50lb. Minimum. To a 20lb flurocarbon length to my hooks. Benefits are no leader knot to gather weed less knots to part. However the likes of the deeps @ ogmore you really need a shock there. As too handball a fish up on braid ain't good.
Also other beaches will cause you probs without one. So it's horses for courses really.
Also other beaches will cause you probs without one. So it's horses for courses really.
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