Power casting of the shore with braid isnt recommended mate, it digs into the braid underneath while casting and will cause nests. Stick to mono and bite the bullet and go for a none levelwind version.

 

Once you get use to laying the line onto a ct reel you will be doing it in your sleep. I have been laid up fishing wise for best part of two years and I thought I would have problems, but I loaded a couple of reels on a rod at home, been out three times now and I don't even think about it, as stated bite the bullet and go ct / mono.

 

Level wind reels are crap at casting any distance and if you mess up its harder to sort out a bird's nest. Braids are ok from shore if short casting like estuary fishing or down the side of a pier, but it casts limp if that makes sense. You can get a 2ndhand sl20 £40
Might be a better choice . Hay Just my opinion. Paul

 

As gazza said stick to mono with a multi and if it's your 1st multi fill it with .40 line and I wouldn't bother with a level wind

 

I wonder if anyone out there has ever managed to get a bridsnest using braid? I've been using braid on a multi for years and it's never happened to me. It's not springy like mono so if you make a mistake it doesn't fluff up and cutting in is not a problem so long as you get your line lay right.
Best not to take advice from mono users about using braid if you ask me. The two materials do not behave the same.

 

Interesting points of view... For and against braid on multipliers.... !!!!

Thanks for the replies I guess the only answer is to try it and see what happens.

I notice there are no comments about the Agility rod............. again it's a suck it and see.

 

I wonder if anyone out there has ever managed to get a bridsnest using braid? I've been using braid on a multi for years and it's never happened to me. It's not springy like mono so if you make a mistake it doesn't fluff up and cutting in is not a problem so long as you get your line lay right.
Best not to take advice from mono users about using braid if you ask me. The two materials do not behave the same.

As you say as long as you get your line lay right BUT as he hasent cast a multy befor he should get used to laying the line right befor he takes on Braid and as for using a multy with a level wind he will lose all the xtra yards he is hoping for get a reel with breaks and mags you will be ok

 

As you say as long as you get your line lay right BUT as he hasent cast a multy befor he should get used to laying the line right before he takes on Braid and as for using a multy with a level wind he will lose all the xtra yards he is hoping for get a reel with breaks and mags you will be ok

Braid and mono are different and learning to cast/fish with one does not necessarily help when it comes to using the other. Line lay is a little different, especially with the thinner diameters. I'd suggest he tries using 65/80lb straight through from the begining. Mags are great of course.

 

All i can say is if Braid was that good all the torny casters would use it as they dont there must be a reason for it

 

All i can say is if Braid was that good all the torny casters would use it as they dont there must be a reason for it

I think it would be against the rules.

UKSF rule states -
6. LINES & LEADER - They must be of general circular section and parallel throughout and be of basic monofilament construction.

 

I wonder if anyone out there has ever managed to get a bridsnest using braid? I've been using braid on a multi for years and it's never happened to me. It's not springy like mono so if you make a mistake it doesn't fluff up and cutting in is not a problem so long as you get your line lay right.
Best not to take advice from mono users about using braid if you ask me. The two materials do not behave the same.

If braid is that good why do top line casters use mono on multipliers? I am not talking about casting under field rules but from the shore.

 

If braid is that good why do top line casters use mono on multipliers? I am not talking about casting under field rules but from the shore.

I guess you'd have to ask them. I'm just an average caster but my comments do reflect my own experience with braid which is fairly extensive.

 

Hi New To This i think (IMO) ur getting things wrong as ur just starting beach casting u got it in ur head distance is most important well it's not,

Get urself a half decent mid range beach caster not top of the range like a zippy because it would be a waste of time and money and a slosh 20 with red brake blocks and learn the basics first dont forget to use shock leader from the beach,

IMO braid is best used on a fixed spool it lays better but braid has next to no abrasion qualitys one chaff against rocks and it will snap so if u r going to use it keep it for sand beaches,

Just ask some of the guys on here how many times they have been fishing and a newby came along next to them and only cast short distance and caught good fish it's not all about distance,

It's all a learning curve learn the basics and then build on that dont try to run b4 you can walk,
but this is only my opinion

 

I guess you'd have to ask them. I'm just an average caster but my comments do reflect my own experience with braid which is fairly extensive.

I have and the answer with wishing to appear rude is simple, it is easier to use, if you do screw up it is easier to sort out, it does not suffer as much as braid over rough ground.

I am not saying braid is wrong in the right hands and you obviously enjoy using it but for a beginner it could turn into an expensive disaster.

I am not an anti-braid person far from it, I have seen it used on fixed spool reels over clean ground and casting wise it is hard to live with and I have used braid on the ABU Garcia Ambassadeur Black Max type of reel and I may well use it this year as you can get extra metres of line on the reel making it an excellent tool for estuary and light boat fishing.

 

Hi New To This i think (IMO) ur getting things wrong as ur just starting beach casting u got it in ur head distance is most important well it's not,

Get urself a half decent mid range beach caster not top of the range like a zippy because it would be a waste of time and money and a slosh 20 with red brake blocks and learn the basics first dont forget to use shock leader from the beach,

IMO braid is best used on a fixed spool it lays better but braid has next to no abrasion qualitys one chaff against rocks and it will snap so if u r going to use it keep it for sand beaches,

Just ask some of the guys on here how many times they have been fishing and a newby came along next to them and only cast short distance and caught good fish it's not all about distance,
it's all a learning curve learn the basics and then build on that dont try to run b4 you can walk,
but this is only my opinion

*well said good advise for the newbie!*

my thoughts on braid its alright for ex carp fisher's'LoL' with fixed spools over clean ground-but for real sea anglers its a Rubbish/waste of time and hard earned money,why bother with braid when there are so many top quality lines out there,the only people who love braid is the people who Profit on it!
But this is only my opinion!!!

 

Hi,is it possible you could use a 6000/6500 size abu instead of a larger 7000
65's are plenty for most general sea angling,step up to a 7000 type if your fishing rough grond a lot,there are great deal's out there at the moment on 65 c3 level winds,iv seen them online around £85 delivered

shakespeare agility is a lovely rod!!!
oh,and forget the braid,hehe!

 

I wonder if anyone out there has ever managed to get a bridsnest using braid? I've been using braid on a multi for years and it's never happened to me. It's not springy like mono so if you make a mistake it doesn't fluff up and cutting in is not a problem so long as you get your line lay right.
Best not to take advice from mono users about using braid if you ask me. The two materials do not behave the same.

Yes, more than once and that's uptiding from a boat- plus mono doesn't make your fingures fall off if they get caught in it.
I still use braid for uptiding, spinning and on fixed spool estuary type fishing but have mono on my beach multi's.

 

Thanks guys...... great set of replies and a lot o good advice. A bit of a controversial by the sound of it.
Just to put the record straight though.. I am new to sea fishing on a regular basis ( but I have dabbled all my life, I'm in my 50's now)
I've used multipliers for some time but not the best of casters. The idea of trying braid was a thought I had, as I'm getting a new set up and have used it for other types of fishing. As for having a level wind, that's purely a preference as I feel happier not having to worry about laying the line every time I wind in. I'm currently using a very old Ambassador SIX and get on great with it and only occasionally over run.

Much to think about but thanks again.........

 

Thanks guys...... great set of replies and a lot o good advice. A bit of a controversial by the sound of it.
Just to put the record straight though.. I am new to sea fishing on a regular basis ( but I have dabbled all my life, I'm in my 50's now)
I've used multipliers for some time but not the best of casters. The idea of trying braid was a thought I had, as I'm getting a new set up and have used it for other types of fishing. As for having a level wind, that's purely a preference as I feel happier not having to worry about laying the line every time I wind in. I'm currently using a very old Ambassador SIX and get on great with it and only occasionally over run.

Much to think about but thanks again.........

Abu 6 is a great old reel,bought 1 on ebay couple week ago-still cost me £52 mind you,level wind is very handy for me when fishing dark nights on the ledges!
also got a good used 6500 ct with loads of letters after its name lol!£65 delivered boxed with a power handle "bright orange tho"they see me coming!!!

 

Well I got the new set up. Abu ambasedaur 7000, shakespear agility and 40lb braid.
Gave it a try the other night and was well pleased. managed an extra 40+meters on the cast and no bird nests.

 

Well I got the new set up. Abu ambasedaur 7000, shakespear agility and 40lb braid.
Gave it a try the other night and was well pleased. managed an extra 40+meters on the cast and no bird nests.

Fair do's,you payed your money and you made your choice

Tidy rod tho!!!