lube them with washing up oil, and is there a nut on the seal you can adjust how well it seal with

 

Hi Lawrence Thank you for your reply I will give it a go get back to you to let you know how it goes regards bill

 

Sorted thank you Lawrence now all I have to do is learn how to use it
Regards bill

 

Phoned up the company I bought it from he sead he had not a clue.


How's that for customer support!!!

 

Phoned up the company I bought it from he sead he had not a clue.


How's that for customer support!!!

not very good I would say but that's what you get for buying of the eBay
Sometimes when people who sell things don't no anything about them
Having sed that most people know what they are doing

 

did you do what i said? did it work?

 

worked a treat thank you so much regards bill

 

I think I will get rid of the wing nut a use locking nut instead
Once again I thank you Lawrence

 

I wouldn't do that, I like tightening the thing up when walking between beds or walking home with it so the thing doesn't slide open and it is always handy to adjust the suction as you go along and then take apart when you get home for washing out, getting rid of the wing nut would make all that harder.

 

I've got a Matchman 22mm pump, no room in there for a wing nut so it's a nut driver for me to tighten/loosen the Nyloc lock nut,worth it I think even in a 28mm pump as its less prone to movement in use than a wing nut .The nut driver is screwdriver sized and just lives in the bucket or coat pocket. Never looked back since going to the long 22mm pump

 

The Nylock nut system is the best I have found for general use , yes it does require the use of a 13 mm a/f socket or boxspanner but it allows infinite suction ( to 29 inch mercury !! ) and it stays put under the most demanding of pumping conditions .The wing nut option causes more trouble than its worth due to the thing backing off in use or when traveling accross the mud and sand , its no usewalking up to half a mile out accross the beach only to find the wing nut and half the washer assembly is in a puddle a quarter of a mile back !lol !
As for the guy in the company that sold the pump in question not knowing anything about the product he sells... well that just about sums up the cheap and not so chearfull ebay option, ya pays peanuts ya gets some saddo monkey !!

 

Should be fun trying to use the pump if it don't work for me there is
Always the tackle shop but having sed that some of the bait I have bought from shops when I lived in Essex
Seems to be past its do by date

 

I`ve been pumping for quite a few years and swapped over to a nylock nut many moons ago....wingnuts tend to slacken off during use,and in the depths of winter it is a real pain trying to get your fingers inside the shaft to tighten it. Once my pump is set up,i don`t touch it for 12 months,which is when i change the washers/bung....after a pumping session i carefully place the pump in the garage and leave it until next time.

 

it is a real pain trying to get your fingers inside the shaft to tighten it

I don't bother trying to tighten the nut with my fingers, I just stick a finger against the nut and tighten or loosen using the T handle of the pump, two seconds no fiddling and no effort. That's a 28MM alvey/shakespeare one.

 

thank you for your reply I will try that one hope it works all I have to do know is find some spots that have not been exhausted from digging in Kent to get some practice in.

 

hi pumping lug is great as u see it online wsf vids ..... ha ha pump pump worm every time I don't know anyone who does this ??? there is a real art to this pumping lark I have tried many times no good ........ HA give me a spade or fork any day . ps take your spade as well when you go . good luck JEZZA

 

take your spade as well when you go

I take my fork when I go to some places so if anyone is about I dig a bit for commons until they go and then the pump comes out..... If you are in a place where blacks are in demand/hard to come by don't let the buggers know what you are doing or where you are doing it.

 

Pumping lug can be like fishing...some days it`s hard work,but the majority of time you will get plenty to fish with and freeze.You can find a patch where the worms just don`t want to come out,but 20yds away and they come out easy.In my experience,those lads who take the time to meet up with competent pumpers,and put the effort in,will invariably get the technique mastered and never look back.

 

Funny you should mention that Mick,this summer alone 2 people have come wandering forlornly up to me on the beach to ask if I've got any spare washers/nut for just that reason, they'd spat their wing nuts etc out of their Alveys at some point along the line and realised too late !!!!!! Wing nuts, as Mick says, can be a pain in the arris at times , a Nyloc is so much less hassle, if you get serious about pumping then a few quid for a nut driver is a p*** in a pot and makes for really easy adjustment that STAYS where it's adjusted to If you get serious about pumping too drop Mick a line and get a proper pump , the reduced workload per worm/ cast is massive with a 22mm, once you get to grips with finding the worms it's the only size pump to go for

The Nylock nut system is the best I have found for general use , yes it does require the use of a 13 mm a/f socket or boxspanner but it allows infinite suction ( to 29 inch mercury !! ) and it stays put under the most demanding of pumping conditions .The wing nut option causes more trouble than its worth due to the thing backing off in use or when traveling accross the mud and sand , its no usewalking up to half a mile out accross the beach only to find the wing nut and half the washer assembly is in a puddle a quarter of a mile back !lol !
As for the guy in the company that sold the pump in question not knowing anything about the product he sells... well that just about sums up the cheap and not so chearfull ebay option, ya pays peanuts ya gets some saddo monkey !!

 

had a 28mm alvey got a stone stuck in the tube wedged in with the wing nut,lucky i did not draw the pump,moved over to a matchman pump,28mm just does not come close to the matchman pump set it up and off you go cant beat nylock nut

 

Hi sinking man I have taken the wing nut off min as well
Seems the nylock nut is the way to go still have not used it yet
Waiting to move in about six weeks to a bungalow at motney hill
When I get settled be back to fishing sea and fresh water and trying out the bait pump
If I can find somewhere to use it not sure has I have moved over from Essex regards bill.

 

I use a stainless steel M12 Allen bolt 100mm long which is evosticked into a standard wooden file handle.
The M12 head is the exact fit for the M8 nylock nut I use to adjust suction on my pump..


I have a few bolts spare if anyone wants one

 

That is a very good tip Ian Pick , I used to supply a Stainless Steel box spanner with my pumps at extra cost because they were tttttime and labour intensive to make . I may well make a box spanner like your item in future as it certainly looks cheeper to produce !

 

That is a very good tip Ian Pick , I used to supply a Stainless Steel box spanner with my pumps at extra cost because they were tttttime and labour intensive to make . I may well make a box spanner like your item in future as it certainly looks cheeper to produce !

 

That is a very good tip Ian Pick , I used to supply a Stainless Steel box spanner with my pumps at extra cost because they were tttttime and labour intensive to make . I may well make a box spanner like your item in future as it certainly looks cheeper to produce !

 

That is a very good tip Ian Pick , I used to supply a Stainless Steel box spanner with my pumps at extra cost because they were tttttime and labour intensive to make . I may well make a box spanner like your item in future as it certainly looks cheeper to produce !

 

Got the shakes in your "send" finger Mick?

 

Got the shakes in your "send" finger Mick?[/QUOTE
Yyyesssss Gone Fishing ! Old age and arfur rightchessness in my hands , too much bait collecting in freezing weather !!

 

I'll drop in the shop and show you or Pauline next time I'm down Mick.

 

 

I've a similar problem as I can only get limited suction.
I believe that my pump has a design or manufacturing fault. The central rod through the washer assembly has FLAT milled along it, even beyond the thread and shoulder where the diameter changes. There is only a loose D washer to prevent air traveling along this flat and entering the pump.
Advice please, send it back?
ps. Why have Alvey changed the wing nut thread size from a standard M8 to some bastard size?

 

Should have gone to Matchman in the first place.