I was really disappointed to read some of the remarks on the SWest Forum in response to Flex mads Enquiry "Taffys need Info" by members of this SWales forum. No one was given a chance to reply before the first Dig went in. What sort of response do you guys and Gals expect. I f you all look again some one Said they were going to PM Flexmad. I suppose it is possible they changed their minds.
I shall not pray for you at chapel this Sunday.
As it happens I have answered Sir fishalots enquiry on this forum 26 hours ago, With some Info I hope he finds it helpful. But guess what? No response!
Some more:
Go into the local tackle shop in the square in Exmouth and talk to Rob,shut Mondays.He's very helpful, ask him for one of his leaflets on all the local beaches from Exmouth to Branscombe. and he reckons its going to be another couple of weeks untill things start happening.
Hope thats a little helpful.
good boats / skippers 01803 551504
Paignton OUR- JO L Simon Pedley good bass fishing trips
Brixham Sea Spray 2 Chris Willicot 01803 851328 This is Vic Evans old craft.
good conger / mixed fishing
BLACKSTONE POINT S>DEVON
SPECIES
Mainly summer and autumn rock dwellers including ballan wrasse, conger, bull huss and pollack, but also a few small-eyed ray off the cleaner sand at long rnage, plus mackerel and garfish.
BAITS
The rays take frozen or fresh sandeel, as will the huss, but both the huss and conger take mackerel and squid cocktails more consistently. Fish rag, lug, or better still crab baits for the wrasse. The pollack, mackerel and gars all take fish strips under flat gear, otherwise try spinners and Redgills.
TACKLE & TACTICS
The bulk of the snags are found relatively close inshore with a good cast putting you out on to clean sand. There are several rock stations to fish, all giving in to a fair depth of water. It fishes well throughout the range of tides, but can be especially good fishing either side of high water during a spring tide at night.
Although this area is well protected from northern quarter winds, there are often big swells running up the rocks here, especially after a southerly wind has lifted the sea. The rocks are backed by a slippery grass bank, so care is needed in wet weather.
A spinning rod and 12lb line is perfect for a roaming session after the mackerel, gars and pollack and can also be used to float fish tight in amongst the rocks. For the wrasse a 2-4oz bass rod and 20lb line is required as some of the wrasse can touch 5lbs plus. Longer range is needed for the rays, huss and conger with a 5-6oz beachcaster and 7000 sized reel with 20 to 25lb line and 60lb shock leader being the best combination.
For the wrasse a simple mono paternoster with a 35lb hook link and size 2/0 to 4/0 Viking pattern hook is good with a weak link system to the lead. The huss and conger are best targeted with a pulley rig made from 60lb mono and a single size 6/0 Viking hook. For the rays, again a clipped down pulley rig works well, but drop the hook size to a single 3/0.
LOCATION
Off the A379 at Yealmptom take the B3186. When you come to Bridgend going up the hill signposted for Noss Mayo. At the crossroads turn right heading for a National Trust car park. Follow the coastal path with the mark located on the right hand side.
THE ERME ESTUARY
SPECIES
Thornback and small-eyed ray show late May and June, but appear in bigger numbers from September on. Bass are resident all year round along with flounders and eels. Big mullet show from April right through to Christmas in mild years. Occasional stingray have been hooked and lost here in May and June.
BAITS
Mackerel or sandeel picks up the rays, though the thornbacks will take crab and the small-eyed squid as well. For the flounders, bass and eels stick with fresh peeler or soft back crab. King rag worm is only a fair back up bait. The mullet take tiny bits of rag or mackerel flesh under a float, or surface fished bread.
TACKLE & TACTICS
The estuary offers beach fishing with the beaches shallowish and backed by low cliffs. It can produce fish on all tide sizes but fished best on the bigger tides. The ray’s show three hours before high tide, but the bas scan be caught both on the flood as they move in, and on the ebb as they head back for open sea.
For the rays and bass a 5-6oz beachcaster and 6500 reel loaded with 15lb line and 50lb shock leader helps get a little more distance out in to the deeper water. A good rig here is a clipped down one hook rig carrying a size 3/0 to 4/0 hook. Leads need to be 5oz grips.
With the flounders and eels generally feeding tight to the shoreline a bass rod and just 12lb line with a light 30lb shock leader is perfect. Fish a simple flowing ledger rig with a 2ft 20lb hook trace and a size 2 Aberdeen.
For the mullet looks for rocks that edge out in to the water and groundbait with bread around these. The mullet show very close in, so be prepared to keep well down out of sight. Fish an Avon type rod, 6lb line and a 4lb Fluoro carbon tippet to a size 10 hook under a loaded waggler float with just enough shot to get the bait down.
LOCATION
Take the A379 Plymouth to Knightsbridge road and then head for Holbeton and the estuary. Roadside parking in places.
bass /River Plym
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Bass can be caught all year round in the plym. The monsters appear to be caught during winter on live baits such as pouting and scad mackeral.
During summer the bass fishing is excellent. Standing on top of the bridge during a big tide you will very likely see scores of bass swimming up or down the river.
The bridge is probably the best place to catch them. Lugworm is a good bait, and should be fished off the bridge so that the tide is dragging the worm under the bridge. it is also important that the worm is about 1/2 ft off the bottom (Use a boom) or else you will be crabbed off. A weight of 2 0z max with a good 5 to 6 lugworms on a pennel rig is recommended. A stop not is also a good idea to stop worms travelling up the line.
The same thing can be done with live sandeel also. Believe it or not, I have caught large flounder of the bridge with live sandeel so don't be surprised what you catch.
The bass will swim through there at some point, and if you don't see them, you probably won't catch them. Be ready for the bites off the bridge which will be one violent jerk followed by a ridiculously strong pull which will pull your rod over the bridge if you are stoned, drunk or asleep! During winter you will catch but probably just schoolies. Although you will have to fish through the schoolies, during the summer you will enjoy frequent catches of bass around 2-4 pounds! Seriously.
However. An important point to note is that it is very very unlikely you will catch the day after heavy rain. (due to some sort of mineral running off dartmoor into the plym apparently).
Fishing elsewhere in the plym is slightly different. The tactic deployed by matey with the ball weight is excellent, and does work. I have found using light weights such as this is very effective.
A hotsopt I have found in the plym, if you want sport, is on the kingsbridge side. Turn immediate left after going over the bridge from plymouth. Walk into the car park on your left (belongs to a car mechanic) and climb down the wall into the plym, and walk towards the bridge until you are on the jetty thing. This is where you should fish. It is best to take a look at low water on a big tide and you will see small snad banks created by the tide (Which changes regularly). Note where the deeper gullies are, and then arrive the next day 3 hours before low water on a ebbing tide. Fish off the jetty straight out and keep changing casts until you get bites. The bigger bass are literally under your rod tip and i have caught good fish two feet from the waters' edge here. You must keep well back from the water, keep quiet, and hold the rod. Use 1-2 oz maximum.
There are conditions for fishing here in this way; 1) Big tides 2) cloudy/overcast 3) No rain the previous day.
To fish here on a bright sunny day, use freelined live sandeel, or use a bubble float with those fake holographic sandeel things. Cast out and reel in, varying retrieve speeds. This method involves a very long trace of around 4-6 ft (or long as possible). Also, don't strike immediately, wait for the confirming second pull to lift into the fish.
There are conditions for this way as well. 1) bigish tides 2) no rain prior day.
There is a very effective method for catching bass stalking them. However, i will reveal this only when I have caught my 8 pound bass!
More info on Teignmouth @ Shaldon
Hi - when I went fishing in Shaldon a couple of years ago we only fished by boat so I don't have much knowledge of shore marks personally but here's some spots that were posted last year on another forum by someone who lives in Teignmouth and sells the sand-eels on the beach in summer. I'm sure a few other people can elaborate on these suggestions. Hope this is of some help.
1= Teignmouth/Shaldon Bridge
Really you are not allowed to fish here anymore, but this law has not stopped anyone. The place to fish is on or near the 3rd lamp post from the Teignmouth side of the bridge, either side, depending on the tide. The biggest Bass from here that I have seen was just over 12lbs
2 = Salty
The best time to fish this is just when it is uncovering, chest waders are essential! People fish this place day in day out with very good results. The best place to fish is towards the bridge, but particularly by the last mooring near the bridge.
3= Polly Steps
Again, the outgoing tide is great, fishing anywhere along pollysteps will provide good catches. Biggest I have seen here is a 9lb fish.
4= Fish Quay
This is probably, my favourite mark in the river, this produces fish in august on whole sprat casting up river.
5= Back Beach
Right outside where they sell live sandeel, you will catch loads of schoolie bass, great fun to catch with the odd 3lb fish turning up
6= Shaldon Lighthouse
Low tide mark only, fishing along side a strong current and a wall.
P.S I've also been told the point which is the very end of Teignmouth beach and which looks such a good place to fish is a tackle graveyard.! Also if you decide to fish the Salty which is the shallow area of the river on the Shaldon side towards the bridge (marked on Ordnance Survey map) which is exposed at low water you need to be a bit careful as it fills from behind. The water comes in fast so it's probably a good idea to watch a tide or two before you don your waders and venture out.
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Regards
Devon Boy in Pembs
Apoligies Flex Mad , it was Sir Fishalot's Thread I replied too.
I shall not pray for you at chapel this Sunday.
As it happens I have answered Sir fishalots enquiry on this forum 26 hours ago, With some Info I hope he finds it helpful. But guess what? No response!
Some more:
Go into the local tackle shop in the square in Exmouth and talk to Rob,shut Mondays.He's very helpful, ask him for one of his leaflets on all the local beaches from Exmouth to Branscombe. and he reckons its going to be another couple of weeks untill things start happening.
Hope thats a little helpful.
good boats / skippers 01803 551504
Paignton OUR- JO L Simon Pedley good bass fishing trips
Brixham Sea Spray 2 Chris Willicot 01803 851328 This is Vic Evans old craft.
good conger / mixed fishing
BLACKSTONE POINT S>DEVON
SPECIES
Mainly summer and autumn rock dwellers including ballan wrasse, conger, bull huss and pollack, but also a few small-eyed ray off the cleaner sand at long rnage, plus mackerel and garfish.
BAITS
The rays take frozen or fresh sandeel, as will the huss, but both the huss and conger take mackerel and squid cocktails more consistently. Fish rag, lug, or better still crab baits for the wrasse. The pollack, mackerel and gars all take fish strips under flat gear, otherwise try spinners and Redgills.
TACKLE & TACTICS
The bulk of the snags are found relatively close inshore with a good cast putting you out on to clean sand. There are several rock stations to fish, all giving in to a fair depth of water. It fishes well throughout the range of tides, but can be especially good fishing either side of high water during a spring tide at night.
Although this area is well protected from northern quarter winds, there are often big swells running up the rocks here, especially after a southerly wind has lifted the sea. The rocks are backed by a slippery grass bank, so care is needed in wet weather.
A spinning rod and 12lb line is perfect for a roaming session after the mackerel, gars and pollack and can also be used to float fish tight in amongst the rocks. For the wrasse a 2-4oz bass rod and 20lb line is required as some of the wrasse can touch 5lbs plus. Longer range is needed for the rays, huss and conger with a 5-6oz beachcaster and 7000 sized reel with 20 to 25lb line and 60lb shock leader being the best combination.
For the wrasse a simple mono paternoster with a 35lb hook link and size 2/0 to 4/0 Viking pattern hook is good with a weak link system to the lead. The huss and conger are best targeted with a pulley rig made from 60lb mono and a single size 6/0 Viking hook. For the rays, again a clipped down pulley rig works well, but drop the hook size to a single 3/0.
LOCATION
Off the A379 at Yealmptom take the B3186. When you come to Bridgend going up the hill signposted for Noss Mayo. At the crossroads turn right heading for a National Trust car park. Follow the coastal path with the mark located on the right hand side.
THE ERME ESTUARY
SPECIES
Thornback and small-eyed ray show late May and June, but appear in bigger numbers from September on. Bass are resident all year round along with flounders and eels. Big mullet show from April right through to Christmas in mild years. Occasional stingray have been hooked and lost here in May and June.
BAITS
Mackerel or sandeel picks up the rays, though the thornbacks will take crab and the small-eyed squid as well. For the flounders, bass and eels stick with fresh peeler or soft back crab. King rag worm is only a fair back up bait. The mullet take tiny bits of rag or mackerel flesh under a float, or surface fished bread.
TACKLE & TACTICS
The estuary offers beach fishing with the beaches shallowish and backed by low cliffs. It can produce fish on all tide sizes but fished best on the bigger tides. The ray’s show three hours before high tide, but the bas scan be caught both on the flood as they move in, and on the ebb as they head back for open sea.
For the rays and bass a 5-6oz beachcaster and 6500 reel loaded with 15lb line and 50lb shock leader helps get a little more distance out in to the deeper water. A good rig here is a clipped down one hook rig carrying a size 3/0 to 4/0 hook. Leads need to be 5oz grips.
With the flounders and eels generally feeding tight to the shoreline a bass rod and just 12lb line with a light 30lb shock leader is perfect. Fish a simple flowing ledger rig with a 2ft 20lb hook trace and a size 2 Aberdeen.
For the mullet looks for rocks that edge out in to the water and groundbait with bread around these. The mullet show very close in, so be prepared to keep well down out of sight. Fish an Avon type rod, 6lb line and a 4lb Fluoro carbon tippet to a size 10 hook under a loaded waggler float with just enough shot to get the bait down.
LOCATION
Take the A379 Plymouth to Knightsbridge road and then head for Holbeton and the estuary. Roadside parking in places.
bass /River Plym
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bass can be caught all year round in the plym. The monsters appear to be caught during winter on live baits such as pouting and scad mackeral.
During summer the bass fishing is excellent. Standing on top of the bridge during a big tide you will very likely see scores of bass swimming up or down the river.
The bridge is probably the best place to catch them. Lugworm is a good bait, and should be fished off the bridge so that the tide is dragging the worm under the bridge. it is also important that the worm is about 1/2 ft off the bottom (Use a boom) or else you will be crabbed off. A weight of 2 0z max with a good 5 to 6 lugworms on a pennel rig is recommended. A stop not is also a good idea to stop worms travelling up the line.
The same thing can be done with live sandeel also. Believe it or not, I have caught large flounder of the bridge with live sandeel so don't be surprised what you catch.
The bass will swim through there at some point, and if you don't see them, you probably won't catch them. Be ready for the bites off the bridge which will be one violent jerk followed by a ridiculously strong pull which will pull your rod over the bridge if you are stoned, drunk or asleep! During winter you will catch but probably just schoolies. Although you will have to fish through the schoolies, during the summer you will enjoy frequent catches of bass around 2-4 pounds! Seriously.
However. An important point to note is that it is very very unlikely you will catch the day after heavy rain. (due to some sort of mineral running off dartmoor into the plym apparently).
Fishing elsewhere in the plym is slightly different. The tactic deployed by matey with the ball weight is excellent, and does work. I have found using light weights such as this is very effective.
A hotsopt I have found in the plym, if you want sport, is on the kingsbridge side. Turn immediate left after going over the bridge from plymouth. Walk into the car park on your left (belongs to a car mechanic) and climb down the wall into the plym, and walk towards the bridge until you are on the jetty thing. This is where you should fish. It is best to take a look at low water on a big tide and you will see small snad banks created by the tide (Which changes regularly). Note where the deeper gullies are, and then arrive the next day 3 hours before low water on a ebbing tide. Fish off the jetty straight out and keep changing casts until you get bites. The bigger bass are literally under your rod tip and i have caught good fish two feet from the waters' edge here. You must keep well back from the water, keep quiet, and hold the rod. Use 1-2 oz maximum.
There are conditions for fishing here in this way; 1) Big tides 2) cloudy/overcast 3) No rain the previous day.
To fish here on a bright sunny day, use freelined live sandeel, or use a bubble float with those fake holographic sandeel things. Cast out and reel in, varying retrieve speeds. This method involves a very long trace of around 4-6 ft (or long as possible). Also, don't strike immediately, wait for the confirming second pull to lift into the fish.
There are conditions for this way as well. 1) bigish tides 2) no rain prior day.
There is a very effective method for catching bass stalking them. However, i will reveal this only when I have caught my 8 pound bass!
More info on Teignmouth @ Shaldon
Hi - when I went fishing in Shaldon a couple of years ago we only fished by boat so I don't have much knowledge of shore marks personally but here's some spots that were posted last year on another forum by someone who lives in Teignmouth and sells the sand-eels on the beach in summer. I'm sure a few other people can elaborate on these suggestions. Hope this is of some help.
1= Teignmouth/Shaldon Bridge
Really you are not allowed to fish here anymore, but this law has not stopped anyone. The place to fish is on or near the 3rd lamp post from the Teignmouth side of the bridge, either side, depending on the tide. The biggest Bass from here that I have seen was just over 12lbs
2 = Salty
The best time to fish this is just when it is uncovering, chest waders are essential! People fish this place day in day out with very good results. The best place to fish is towards the bridge, but particularly by the last mooring near the bridge.
3= Polly Steps
Again, the outgoing tide is great, fishing anywhere along pollysteps will provide good catches. Biggest I have seen here is a 9lb fish.
4= Fish Quay
This is probably, my favourite mark in the river, this produces fish in august on whole sprat casting up river.
5= Back Beach
Right outside where they sell live sandeel, you will catch loads of schoolie bass, great fun to catch with the odd 3lb fish turning up
6= Shaldon Lighthouse
Low tide mark only, fishing along side a strong current and a wall.
P.S I've also been told the point which is the very end of Teignmouth beach and which looks such a good place to fish is a tackle graveyard.! Also if you decide to fish the Salty which is the shallow area of the river on the Shaldon side towards the bridge (marked on Ordnance Survey map) which is exposed at low water you need to be a bit careful as it fills from behind. The water comes in fast so it's probably a good idea to watch a tide or two before you don your waders and venture out.
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Regards
Devon Boy in Pembs
Apoligies Flex Mad , it was Sir Fishalot's Thread I replied too.
