could be bullhuss??

 

probably dogfish, the can take a fish home as long that is above the miniuim size limit for that fish

 

Is that the same as rock fish as whilst i was working down essex just recently i went into a chippy and was offered a rock fish i asked what it was and was again told a rock fish i explained to the nice blond what sort of fish is it as i had never heard of a rock fish and again i was told a rock fish

i had sausage and chips :laugh::laugh:



ETEC

 

Originally I think Spurdog were sold as Rock Eel but as we seem to have nearly run out of them I think they will sell just about any thing similar they can get away with -
Seen smoothhounds at Billingsgate market - they don't fetch much .

 

As a kid way back when, it was rock salmon.
The name was shortened to Rock.
It was always doggy.
Huss was sold as huss.

 

thanks lads for your quick replies...but...we all still seem to be a bit baffled... something tells me we need an expert... a super hero...by day .....
his a man of leisure....some say his finger tips excrete pure lug worm juice.... others say he can wake in the morning and smell fish feeding in the river crouch.....all i know is he goes under the name of .........
' ROKER RON' please ron if your out there could you settle this
once and for all............

 

Originally I think Spurdog were sold as Rock Eel but as we seem to have nearly run out of them I think they will sell just about any thing similar they can get away with -
Seen smoothhounds at Billingsgate market - they don't fetch much .

You are correct Halfpintawhelks, it is spurdog and is also served up as rock-salmon, rock-eel, rig and huss.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_salmon

 

always thought it was dogfish?????

 

The rock eel ,rock salmon,huss,flake mystery continues.......
seems like the 'old fellow' who originally told me about the tope and
smoothhound might be right after all...''any kind of small shark''...
seems to be the general answer by every one....
at least its give us all food for thought.....excuse the pun......
thanks to you all again .........tricky micky.::victory:

 

Actually these days chaps Rock eel is a generic name for any of the Dog fish types, that includes smoothounds, bullhuss and spurdogs, rock eel down the chippy are rarely LSD's usually due too them being too small and skinny..

The smoothounds cousin the Australian gummy shark was almost fished to extinction, the Aussies like them so much, smoothound bled and skinned quickly, left in a soak in brine for 24 hours are great table fish, aussies take small medalions of any shark, though in the south gummy's are the m ost favorite batter and deep fry they call it flake..

I'll be putting a few in the coolbox/eski the next time I go out on the boat, thats for sure.....

Oh how do I know about rock eel, family been involved in the restaurant game for 100 years ...............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flake_(fish)

 

what a brilliant thread, very informative, thats what this site is all about......jeff1960

 

Actually these days chaps Rock eel is a generic name for any of the Dog fish types, that includes smoothounds, bullhuss and spurdogs, rock eel down the chippy are rarely LSD's usually due too them being too small and skinny..

I reckon your right there Roller,i know that they do use lsds down here quite often though.

 

thanks lads for your quick replies...but...we all still seem to be a bit baffled... something tells me we need an expert... a super hero...by day .....
his a man of leisure....some say his finger tips excrete pure lug worm juice.... others say he can wake in the morning and smell fish feeding in the river crouch.....all i know is he goes under the name of .........
' ROKER RON' please ron if your out there could you settle this
once and for all............

....gone fishings/ roller have got it spot on " rock salmon " ,was the general term applied to dogfish, huss, monk fish after the war and generally thru to this day in london and the surrounding areas.. when i moved to sussex in 73 all u would see in the fish an chips shops was huss.. its genearally the same thing... though the term rock salmon is now shortened to rock.. ?? nearly always with the backbone section stiil on it when cooked.....skate , more to the point skate wings are always thornies..i used to live nex door to a chippy from 52-thru to 73 ,.. thats when u didnt have to wait 15 mins for a piece of fish to be cooked an they overwrapped it in newspaper !! crackling was free !! chips cost threepence and a piece of plaice/cod/rock was ninepence !!.. fish and chips for 5 or 6 p.. !!!!!!!foxy 52:victory::victory::victory:

 

surely it is just any version of minature shark, lsd, huss, smooth, spurdogs etc think they just invented the names to cover a variety of species

 

extract from wikipidea

Some species of dogfish have been considered a nuisance by fishermen because their schooling behavior can lead to high bycatch, especially in trawl and longline fisheries.[1] Dogfish are commonly eaten in Britain, especially in the south of England, where they are a less expensive alternative to cod or plaice in fish and chip shops, and are traditionally called "huss". In other parts of the country (and increasingly in London) they are marketed as "rock salmon".

Care must be taken when handling spiny dogfish because of the two spines in front of both dorsal fins. Their skin is also abrasive, thus gloves are usually worn when handling live dogfish [2].

Dogfish is a name applied to a number of small sharks found in the northeast Atlantic, Pacific, and Mediterranean oceans. It is applied especially to those in the three families Scyliorhinidae, Dalatiidae, and Squalidae. Although often used in reference to Scyliorhinus canicula, the name is applied loosely and does not signify a close taxonomic relationship

 

hi all,rock,huss same price up here in the chippys as cod..andyl

 

Don't know what it is as I was always told it was Dogfish.But it is the only fish I buy from the chippie.Steve

 

....gone fishings/ roller have got it spot on " rock salmon " ,was the general term applied to dogfish, huss, monk fish after the war and generally thru to this day in london and the surrounding areas.. when i moved to sussex in 73 all u would see in the fish an chips shops was huss.. its genearally the same think... though the term rock salmon is now shortened to rock.. ?? nearly always with the backbone section stiil on it when cooked.....skate , more to the point skate wings are always thornies..i used to live nex door to a chippy from 52-thru to 73 ,.. thats when u didnt have to wait 15 mins for a piece of fish to be cooked an they overwrapped it in newspaper !! crackling was free !! chips cost threepence and a piece of plaice/cod/rock was ninepence !!.. fish and chips for 5 or 6 p.. !!!!!!!foxy 52:victory::victory::victory:

An evenings out cost for a child in the early to mid 1950s.

Bus fare 3d = 1.5p each way = 3d - 1.5p
Pictures 9d = 3.5p
Sweets 3d = 1.5p
Fish and chips on way home 6d = 2.5p

Evening out 21d = 8p.

for you yuppies out there Pictures - Cinema
1/- (12d) = a shilling or a bob = 5p
6d (a tanner) = 2.5p
Politicians were respected.
No one died from hospital acquired infections (or not that we were told of)
Kids could freely roam the streets, parks and fields in safety.
Bobbies could and did give you a clip around the ear for misbehaving.
Prescriptions were 1/- (5p) and this covered all items on the same prescription. (Mine a free now so who cares!)

And to introduce a fishing theme out of respect for our mods.
Fish were plentiful in the sea
Reels were centre pin.
Line was braided cotton
Rods were Greenheart, old snooker cues or bamboo poles.
A paternoster was a 3 boom all brass afair
Conservation and global warming were words that hadn't been invented.
We had proper fog - Lethal (I mean it) thick greeny grey and so dense that you couldn't even see to walk across the road.
And out of the cities and towns there was sod all traffic to worry about if you tried to.

The only thing is that looking back, whilst many things were without doubt a whole lot better than they are today I'm not so sure that overall, things were so much better.

 

i would have to agree with it being dogfish

 

thanks lads for your quick replies...but...we all still seem to be a bit baffled... something tells me we need an expert... a super hero...by day .....
his a man of leisure....some say his finger tips excrete pure lug worm juice.... others say he can wake in the morning and smell fish feeding in the river crouch.....all i know is he goes under the name of .........
' ROKER RON' please ron if your out there could you settle this
once and for all............

Predominately Spurdog BUT as the Spurdog fishery is being slowly strangled it will be taken up with Smoothound.
The smaller Dogfish are good eating but not enough on them to bother.
Smaller Tope are good eating too,known in some areas as 'Sweet William' but again,not enough of them to supply the market.

 

Went in a chip shop up in somerset and asked for rock and they did not even no what it was,then in another one they say its only londoners that ask for it so we dont sell it ( proper huss is spurdog and my best went 17lb)

 

An evenings out cost for a child in the early to mid 1950s.

Bus fare 3d = 1.5p each way = 3d - 1.5p
Pictures 9d = 3.5p
Sweets 3d = 1.5p
Fish and chips on way home 6d = 2.5p

Evening out 21d = 8p.

for you yuppies out there Pictures - Cinema
1/- (12d) = a shilling or a bob = 5p
6d (a tanner) = 2.5p
Politicians were respected.
No one died from hospital acquired infections (or not that we were told of)
Kids could freely roam the streets, parks and fields in safety.
Bobbies could and did give you a clip around the ear for misbehaving.
Prescriptions were 1/- (5p) and this covered all items on the same prescription. (Mine a free now so who cares!)

And to introduce a fishing theme out of respect for our mods.
Fish were plentiful in the sea
Reels were centre pin.
Line was braided cotton
Rods were Greenheart, old snooker cues or bamboo poles.
A paternoster was a 3 boom all brass afair
Conservation and global warming were words that hadn't been invented.
We had proper fog - Lethal (I mean it) thick greeny grey and so dense that you couldn't even see to walk across the road.
And out of the cities and towns there was sod all traffic to worry about if you tried to.

The only thing is that looking back, whilst many things were without doubt a whole lot better than they are today I'm not so sure that overall, things were so much better.

..amen to that brother !!!!.... the fog was smog in london !!, we used to get sent home from school early on a winters afternoon..with a scarf wrapped around our mouths so we did not inhale the mix of coal smoke,dust,exhaust fumes etc etc.. that was great !! i only lived 100 yds from my primary school.. that was about 1957 !!!....cane rods were the norm then solid fibre glass..well high tech they were !! but still weighed a fair bit.. !! i still have my original 8ft solid glass road and i will never part with it.. !!!! ..ps.. london prices were more for fish and chips in my younger days...!? 9 old pennies for plaice/cod.. 3 old pennies for a portion of chips..a shilling the lot !!!!. an very generous portions .. !!!.. foxy52 .

 

The Greater Spotted Dog is Huss, not the Lesser Spotted, I think?

Huss also called Dogfish is a type of shark belonging to the family Scyliorhinus (Catshark family). It is a seawater (marine) fish found in the north-east Atlantic, Pacific and Mediterranean. Classed as a "white" fish they have a well flavoured firm pinkish flesh, which may be partly due to their diet which includes crustaceans. In the UK they are also known as Rock Salmon, a name thought up by marketeers to make them more acceptable to consumers and are one of the popular fish sold in Fish & Chip shops.

 

all doggies are maggit size portions.
maggit, aka smellie ellie, she loves em:kissing: