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rod rating exceeding lure weight

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#1 · (Edited)
Anyone knows any actual test where guys throwing weights with rod rating exceeding weight and measuring the actual distance that can be achieved.

I havent been able to reach boiling sea couple of times recently (should've casted 100-150m) so I am getting into shore "distance" lure fishing, will try casting lures/softies between 30-60g to a longer distance. (I dont want feathers and big sinkers, I want to use these lures/softies only).

I have a couple of rods which are covering the above lure weight range but I dont feel comfortable casting big with them, rods seems to have too slow action and too flexible, most power at the start of the stroke goes into flexing the rod.

I want a long(at least 13ft), fast action, lightweight rod, but most of these rods are surfcasters with much higher rating than 30-60g or too slow action if less, the closest I could come is a 13ft 2.5-4oz "light" surfcaster, with a very sensitive glass fibre tip.

Google is telling me (without any tests or proof) that with lighter lure weight you cant load the rod properly, but does the rod need to be loaded? I actually dont like when first half of the movement lost in the rod flexing, would rather have the absolute minimum flex to save the rig from he high power peak and then accelerate the lure instead of more flex.

Most of the distance casting records are also done with very-very stiff rods by the looks of it, with definitely much less flex that I have with my standard kit and a 30g lure.

Also someone with more power could accelerate the lure faster and load the same rod with less weight, isnt that?

I think I could definitely load a 2.5oz minimum rating rod with a 50-60gram lure/metal (tall, 300lbs, been working out a bit), but what if I swap lures for a 20-30g lure as fish is closer and I like those lures better for close work?

I guess I would have no issues casting 20-40 meters with a 20-30g lure with the kit above and the only disadvantage would be that the kit is heavier to hold, which I am fine with, I normally only fish for 2-3 hours before get bored anyway.

Any opinions? Is it that bad using the rod sometimes with half of the minimum lure weight?
 
#3 ·
Hey thanks for this, this is exactly what I've been looking for!

But then why is everyone all over the place with the lure weight should match the rod rating, otherwise the lure will fell 5 yards in front of you stuff. Tbh I've been casting different weights with rods having their load ratings all over the place (but never with a weaker rod) and I've never experienced any major problems, I can cast a 2g float with a 20-60g generic rod as well as with a much lighter rod, with different feel and speed ofc, but never noticed any issues with distance etc.

Seems like I can put together a 4m light beachcaster 2.5-5oz, with a very sensitive glass tip and a lightweight reel at a total ~500-550g weight to be my only rod for everything, will get a couple of rods soon and will test them out how they feel with surfcaster and a small size 30 reel as well.
 
#5 ·
Seems like zziplex folded, cant find the rod anywhere?

Especially the weight of the rod which seems to be really important atm as I can cast a light rod and reel total ~550g for hours, but I tried today the new rod with a big pit reel with a total weight of 910g and my arm is dead after 10 casts, so I cant have a rod much more than 300g.

Anyway with the light beachcaster, 4m @330grams, 2.5-5oz and with a big pit reel I can cast the 31g SG sandeel v2 to 80m measured at the reel, once line is tight, ~80+ rotation with 97cm line retrieve consistently.

I expected a bit more, but at least the cast feels very good, I feel much more in control than with the more flexible rods, so I can focus on the technique and power transfer better and overall it feels very smooth. (I tried to do aerialised otg casts)

When swapped to the low end size 30 reel, it went down to below 75m (100rotation@76cm retrieve, maybe even less than that as on this reel the line level goes down substantially after a cast).

I ofc cant keep the big pit reel and the biggest issue with my small reel seems to be that it has a very bad line lay and the same line - double spooled suffix x8 - instantly gets wind knots every second cast, while on the big pit I didnt get any issues at all. I even lost my test lure.

Does anyone know any good distance casting and LIGHT spinning reel max around 250g which wont mess up my braid?

Any big pits with long and slow stroke in size ~30?

My plan is to get a good "casting" spinning reel ~size 30 and add the missing 25% to 100m by improving my technique :)
 
#6 ·
Look at the Basia QD25 much lighter than you Big Pit Reel, slightly more money but can by up to 1/2 the weight.

search ebay/FB market place for for the rod.

75m is achievable with a 9’ rod and a patchenko lure -
 
#8 ·
Based on that video I am quite happy with my 75-80m casts considering sandeel flaps around in the air, guess my line is thicker and ofc I am a worse caster.

Looks like I am at a good starting point to learn proper technique, I can feel there are reserves in my cast.

I dont have that much money for a reel, I am on a budget.

I found a reel I am happy with @320 grams, so total weight is gonna be ~650g, my old gear is ~560g, so its only a 90g difference - hopefully that will be ok.

If it is still too much weight I can still substantially downsize my reel to a proper budget spinning reel @250g.

Will report back when I have the 100+ haha