Here is a bit of info on the Seamark boats. Neither of them have the cabin accomodation that you are after though.
http://seamarkworkboats.co.uk/html/seamark_23.html
http://seamarkworkboats.co.uk/html/seamark_26.html

 

Obviously your stated budget of £3000 is now revised to something quite a lot higher?
Make sure you have sufficient working capital after buying the hull and cabin, otherwise you will have a very large and expensive garden pond.
I reckon that you will need a good £10000 to get the project off to a good start.

Apart from all the downside stuff, both the 23 and the 26 look really great sea boats and to own a finished one fitted out to your plans would be fabulous. Something that you could pass on after years of service. There is nothing like making or fitting out a boat from scratch. You know every screw, glue, and bolt.

Afishionado

 

http://www.seamarkworkboats.co.uk/html/seamark_26.html

This is fishing / work boat.
Hull only price of £3,750 (+vat ??)
Thought You wanted to spend £3000 ?
No room for weekends on it.:uhuh:

Alan

 

Here is a bit of info on the Seamark boats. Neither of them have the cabin accomodation that you are after though.
http://seamarkworkboats.co.uk/html/seamark_23.html
http://seamarkworkboats.co.uk/html/seamark_26.html

for a boat of that size to have 4 berths it would almost certainly have to be a dedicated cruiser have you thought of buying a boat and have a removeable camper top that way you have the best of both worlds a couple of inflatable beds and your sorted something like a versatility think they are 27ft with a fair bit of cabin space put a camper on the back and you have the boat you want

 

Hi Guys,

Something like a SEAMASTER20 would be perfect for us but trying to fine of them would be like finding the proverbial rocking horse s**t!!!

Anyway, after sitting and having a good discussion with my better half, we are willing to put all of our savings into this boat on top of our original budget of £3000, which brings our total funding up to £10,500.
I am sure after looking around at various websites, that we will be able to have a seaworthy boat for that money. It may not be top notch and all singing and all dancing, but over time, there can be more fitted to it I am sure.

We wont and dont necessarily need to have everything brand new on board, a decent second hand engine will suffice us for the use it will get as well as the same for the fish finder, etc.

We have been looking on eBay and also boatsandoutboards websites at various items, and it seems like there is some good quality second hand items on them that would suit us.

So, being with those ideas and avenues, do it sound like a feasible project for us for our needs, and for our total budget?

We know that there will be a lot of research to be undertaken, etc before the boat is ordered, which is why I am trying to do the right thing by asking all the questions and getting advice, etc, before shelling out a vast amount of money and making mistakes.

Regards to us staying on board. It would only be the 2 of us that would 'Sleep' onboard and eat maybe a takeaway meal on the mooring or a BBQ or even a simple meal cooked onboard on the stove, but we would of course need a sea toilet. Maybe a portable TV for some company at night?Sound right?


Thanks

 

Not being a boat owner myself I couldn't even begin to advise on the right choice for you or anyone else,but having read this and your other thread,the one thing that seems to be missing is any mention of running costs!
Again as a non boat owner I don't know how much the yearly running costs are BUT,I think you'll find that a marina berth,fuel,insurance and maintenance costs are substantial to say the least!

 

£10,500, Now your talking.:clap2:
Should get a nice boat for that money.
Have you had a boat before?
Wouldn`t go the Ebay route if you don`t really know what you are doing though.
Boatsandoutboards.com is a good source. If you have little boat knowledge then make sure you have someone who knows what they are talking about with you when you have a look at one.

Alan

 

Hi Guys,

Something like a SEAMASTER20 would be perfect for us but trying to fine of them would be like finding the proverbial rocking horse s**t!!!

Anyway, after sitting and having a good discussion with my better half, we are willing to put all of our savings into this boat on top of our original budget of £3000, which brings our total funding up to £10,500.
I am sure after looking around at various websites, that we will be able to have a seaworthy boat for that money. It may not be top notch and all singing and all dancing, but over time, there can be more fitted to it I am sure.

We wont and dont necessarily need to have everything brand new on board, a decent second hand engine will suffice us for the use it will get as well as the same for the fish finder, etc.

We have been looking on eBay and also boatsandoutboards websites at various items, and it seems like there is some good quality second hand items on them that would suit us.

So, being with those ideas and avenues, do it sound like a feasible project for us for our needs, and for our total budget?

We know that there will be a lot of research to be undertaken, etc before the boat is ordered, which is why I am trying to do the right thing by asking all the questions and getting advice, etc, before shelling out a vast amount of money and making mistakes.

Regards to us staying on board. It would only be the 2 of us that would 'Sleep' onboard and eat maybe a takeaway meal on the mooring or a BBQ or even a simple meal cooked onboard on the stove, but we would of course need a sea toilet. Maybe a portable TV for some company at night?Sound right?


Thanks

have a look at my avatar mate she does all what you need and she wont cost you as much as you are talking about she aint for sale but there are penty of colvic 20 fishing cruisers and if you get an up together one it will cost peanuts to run and handles a sea very well for her size

 

Sort of back on course . . . :boat:

ET's OPO

 

Paul is right the Colvics are little battleships. strong sturdy and very economical with a marine diesel of about 30hp.

Afishionado

 

Any WWW address' for the Colvics?

Thanks

 

Have a look here. There are a few in your price range at just under £8 ready to go which will leave a couple of grand for mooring and bits and bobs you might want.

 

Any WWW address' for the Colvics?

Thanks

they still make them at man friday marine exeter but new they are dear if you get a good one mine is thirty years old and the gelcoat is pretty much as new mine had a thirty hp lister new gearbox and rewired some good wood work throughout 2 berths toilet compartment sink and stove £7,000 the engine had 215 hours from new on it and it burns one third of a gallon an hour I got caught in an offshore f7 easterly last year and she steamed right through it great boat mate only draw back a little slow 6kts if you want some piccys pm me your e-mail address and I will send them

 

The Seamark 23 or 26 with the larger wheelhouse and 2-berth cabin looks just the job, if you don't mind 8 knots. Very economical too.

 

Sharpshooter,

Is it advertised on the web? Any pictures?

Why were you warned off? What is wrong with them?

Thanks

 

Sharpshooter,

Is it advertised on the web? Any pictures?

Why were you warned off? What is wrong with them?

Thanks

this looks a goodun rsc

http://www.boatshed.com/pictures.php?boatshed_login=m8smu0h6cq7tvq9dvutsjqpp11&boat=30225

 

It was, just looked again and the ad has been withdrawn.
It was in channel islands. A friend of a friend who knows his stuff went to have a look and reported back that " i wouldnt bother" Apparently it was rocking and rolling all over the place on her mooring in the harbour. Smaller boats around it wernt.
I rang the local marina office and was told the guy had a scare with it and wants rid of.
According to the guy selling it she was built and finished at the seamark yard in or around essex.
Personally - i would go with either a colvic as advised by paul, or a treeve, cygnus or better still kingfisher hull which have proven track records at sea keeping.

SS

nearly brought a treeve 25 a few years ago what a lay up but rare also I think from the same manufacturer the halmatic all smashing boats

 

Do we realy think this is for real????

h34r:

 

ET-OPO,

Why do you ask if this is for real?
I can assure you that we are deadly serious about this project, and we felt that asking for advice from experienced and knowledgeble seamen was the best thing to do.

We are sorry if we have offended you in any way, but to be frank, on both the posts that I have raised for answers on this forum, you have done nothing usful but take the mick and be midly offensive yourself. I would like to ask in the most professional and decent manner that if you cannot help or simply do not want to help, will you please stop posting the petty remarks that you have been doing.

I feel that the comments andopinions that the other members have been giving me in relation to ther boats has been most worthwhile and it's now going to be a tough decision on which to go for.

Thanks
(Im going for a ponder now!)

 

Do we realy think this is for real????

h34r:

And your point is?

Afishionado

 

Even if Roarscarymonster was not for real (but I believe he is) surely the thread is useful to others in the same position. ET-OPO you do have a habit sometimes of being sarcastic or negative about some posters on here. As Roarscarymonster says, if you cant or dont want to help then please dont post petty remarks.

 

If you're still considering a colvic, have a look at ebay item no. 220088583431 which might be of interest.

 

The reason the Seamark was bobbing and rolling in the harbour is likely to be the full displacement hull.

Full on displacement hulls are actually remarkably seaworthy, but they are extremely well known for rolling like absolute pigs (still remaining sea worthy, just blinking rocky).

They plod through almost anything, chucking water EVERYWHERE, but they just keep going. The downside is that if you are liable to seasickness then you will get it on a displacement with the rocking and rolling that happens even on a quiet swinging mooring.

In a following sea they can feel a little hairy. but due to the fact that they are running at little over walking pace (a slow jog at best) the broaching caused by the following sea over taking them is not too frightening, just be aware it will happen.

RSM

The Seamark bares no resemblance to what you suggested you wanted at the start.
It is a solid little commercial work boat, suited to a one man band crab potter or netter.

Remember that these "off plan" part build don't have engines included in the price.
£10,500 may just about get you a kit version of the Seamark 26, but that isn't the boat that you actually have described you need.

£10,500 will get you a first rate Colvic, ready to fish from that will give you years of pleasure (albeit at a slow pace).
You'll have changein your pocket to buy a good set of safety gear for the four of you and probably even reupholster the cabin to freshen it up for when you weekend onboard.

Seriously consider the advice you are being given, those offering advice freely are all (oddly - consider why) telling you to do something remarkably similar.

Tom
PS
RSM:
Remember that once you have invested your money in the boat and all her safety gear, yo will still need to run her.
A displacement hull will use very little fuel, but she will need anodes, antifoul, engine servicng, mooring fees (a few £000 to a few £000 per year just for that and the bigger the boat the more the fees).

 

ET-OPO,

Why do you ask if this is for real?
I can assure you that we are deadly serious about this project, and we felt that asking for advice from experienced and knowledgeble seamen was the best thing to do.

We are sorry if we have offended you in any way, but to be frank, on both the posts that I have raised for answers on this forum, you have done nothing usful but take the mick and be midly offensive yourself. I would like to ask in the most professional and decent manner that if you cannot help or simply do not want to help, will you please stop posting the petty remarks that you have been doing.

I feel that the comments andopinions that the other members have been giving me in relation to ther boats has been most worthwhile and it's now going to be a tough decision on which to go for.

Thanks
(Im going for a ponder now!)

I found your questions rather obtuse mate? OK, so, perhaps I got it wrong?, but at least I had the balls to 'ask the question'! Sounds like you have very limited experience?, which can come over as a 'wind up', again sorry if I put 2 and 2 together and made 5.

So that was the point Afishinado, cant be right all the time

Cascars, negative on my posts?:g: . . . No, I say what I think is an answer or comment on a view, or subject, if that does not match with your view, I'm sorry, but I am entitled to my personal view, as are we all.

As far as this thread goes (including the first thread that started this off), I defended 'roar-monster', posted pics to help him focus, defended the fact that displacement speed can be enjoyed, however, I got to the nub when I asked for a budget. If thats negative, I give up.:cc_surren

I will never say 'yes when I feel no is correct', never :boxing:

ET's OPO

 

ET-OPO

Thanks for your post, I understand where you are coming rom, I guess that your comments were taken out of turn by me and I can only apologise as I personally thought that they were directly aimed at me in an offensive manner......so I truly apologise and hope that we have no bad feelings?

Yes, I am certainley not an expert when it comes to this subject, however, my father used to own a 20ft river cruiser which I used most weekends so I do have some limited experience, but I realise common sense must prevail and be used when being afloat inshore, which all we will do.

I think that after all the good advice given, a Colvic is the way to go now!

Thanks guys.

By the way ET-OPO......Where in Cambs are you from? I have mates down that neck of the woods.