How much cash you got?.. shimano technium a shade under 500 bucks

 

If your wanting extreme range then an aero technium is unfortunately the only way to go but they certainly aren't cheap. The Bullseye has good line lay but is quite a slow retrieve.
Others are the spinfisher lc but it will probs be 10-15 yds down on the Shimano's due to the smaller spool.

There's reels by Daiwa but I have no experience of them, just look for a reel with a metal frame for the rough stuff and you won't go far wrong.

 

Ultegras mate the new black ones. £150 each they have the slow line lay

 

But are the new ones very strong?

The older Ultegra is a bit wobbly on the rotor and the frame and struggles a little with a constant load, you can't tighten the handle with that stupid plastic end cap.

The Ci4 is a little better, it has a stiffer frame and screw in handle but even that is a bit out of its depth in the heavy stuff.

 

I have a pair of those Jim :-D

 

I used to use a pair of Daiwa big pit reels, Emblem s 5500t I think they were called, brilliant for the rough and cheap as chips. Check e-bay.

 

Mate there great reels smudge. Would great for Ian . Look them up mate

 

Another good shoot for big reels for rock fishing that don't let line slip is spood reels mate cheap and strong

 

Mate there the new ones out . Awesome reel . Slow osillation line lay gives you extra meters in the cast . Look stunning light and great retrieve

 

Mate there the new ones out . Awesome reel . Slow osillation line lay gives you extra meters in the cast . Look stunning light and great retrieve

I know there the new ones, but are they strong on the retrieve, for example could you steadily wind in a codling about 2-3lb or a decent sized dog without excessive pumping?

With the Aero Technium and Bullseye you can but I suspect you would have to pump and wind a lot more on the cheaper reels.

It's a big issue for most of my fishing as you can get hung up and bump the odd fish off in the kelp.

The slow oscillation is good but more a marketing gimmick imo. I know a guy who casts on the field, he uses a ultegra 10000 XSC and bought an MGS, there was barely any difference in distance on the field. Nothing you would instantly notice as the spool size and design are almost identical.

 

A good all rounder with a tough body that won't twist when you are trying to break out of a snag and also make a nice little wreck jigging reel then a Shimano Stradic fk 5000. I almost bought one yesterday while waiting for 4 tyres to be fitted to my 4x4 ( the cost of the tyres stopped me)

I'm not talking extreme range above but the further over rough you cast the more chance you have to get snagged and the more chance of a decent fish getting among the rough stuff on the retrieve. I like my reels to be able adapt to different situations such as spin, cast and jig etc, save buying three!!! If you want faster retrieve turn the handle quicker

JonD

 

I use a bullseyes for my rough ground heavier line fishing cant fault them they have stronger bodies than my fliegens and surfleaders. The fliegen is pretty much the same reel as an aero tech very light and strong.
If you want something a bit stronger the older bullsye xt model is a very strong reel .

 

Penn spinfisher V "long cast"it looks a mighty penn reel ! Its got super long cast spool with slow oscillation and when I had a look at it looked SOLID ! This reel will cast the distance and has the gears to match and should crank up biggies over rocks no problems being a penn with a drag to match I must add ! Definitely on my shopping list !- have a look at it and its not expensive at all !- nice and very strong with a compact body.Anybody got one or has any info on this feel i would love to hear all about it.
thanks gents
Bill

 

Alan hawk has a review of the spinfisher on his site.
Unfortunatley most of the modern penn stuff seems to be garbage.

 

As chukka has said the ground me and my mate was fishing yesterday you had to just try to Keep winding as soon as you had to pump the fish in you were snagged
My mate hooked a better fish the odds were staked against him I'm looking down the lines of a narrow spool fixed spool with good line lay the spinfisher are OK but I know a few lads who have trashed them I'm Tring to find a reel with good cranking power

 

I love the Saragosa SW. I did a quick review of mine, check it out.

 

I love the Saragosa SW. I did a quick review of mine, check it out.

The Saragosa is a very strong reel but very heavy in the bigger sizes (25000) and the line lay is shocking compared to the aero techs and ultegras. I know a few guys swear by the conflict and battle 6000/ 8000 in the heavy stuff, there's also the clash which apparently has beefed up gearing.

About time a manufacturer brought a long distance rock reel. There's a massive market for one in the UK at least. On the NE rock scene it tends to be spinfishers, conflicts, battles and aero techs with the odd Bullseye and Fin Nor thrown in. The Battle LC looks like it would do the job but is poor, nice line lay but too much play in the rotor.

 

I have a tronix pro virtuoso that I'm going to try. Seems right in hand and hopefully performs the same on the water. 4:1 ratio should ensure some grunt while the big spool still recovers a good amount each turn. Upto know the daiwa evo emblem has worked well for me.
As ianbatt says, it needs to wind without dropping the rod tip or alls lost.

 

How much cash you got?.. shimano technium a shade under 500 bucks

Anybody wanting a Technium theres a seller on ebay putting the 10000xsc out for £330 with free p+p -cheapest ive ever seen em

 

I'll take 2

 

Anyone used one of these yet?

http://www.gerrysfishing.com/shimano-super-aero-sl-ci4-surf-35.ir

 

Looks the business but sounds like it has a plastic/carbon reinforced body! Not good.

Low retrieve ratio sounds good if true.

 

They have the same c14 body as the higher spec ultegras.
They have the same O shaped spool as the higher end jdm shimano reels i have a couple here and they are a nice smooth light reel.
They are a lighter reel than the bullseye but not as solid.
The 30 sized model is a 5500 in uk shimanos and the 35 is the 10/14000 size.

 

A bit more info.

http://fish.shimano-eu.com/content/....com/content/eu/en/Home/products0/jdm/jdm-reels/super-aero-surf-leader-ci4.html

 

I got a Surf Leader at the weekend, I did a quick first impressions vid. Check it out if your interested. Cheers

 

I got a Surf Leader at the weekend, I did a quick first impressions vid. Check it out if your interested. Cheers

Thanks for the video. Does the reel only come with one spool? If so, it might be a bit of a white elephant, too shallow for field casting or most fishing applications. The body should be good with the extra bearing and low gearing but not much use if you empty the reel every time you cast it. Do you know if the reel will hold the existing Ultra ci4 spools?

 

Im not sure if the Ultra ci4 spools fit, sorry. The reel comes with only one spool. I'm going to try it with a few different braids and see how it goes. I have some 40lb Power Pro and 30 lb 8 strand Daiwa Tournament which I'm going to try. Both lines will be used with 80lb Power Pro shock. Will give it a lash at the weekend and see how it goes..

 

How did you get on with this?
Nice vid