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wilson flyer 23 build

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hi guys. i have just bought a set of mouldings from brian wilson at wilson boats. i went for the 23 as my last boat was 20ft and didn't really have enough room on it.

i should be picking the boat up in couple of weeks.

i have bought the hull with ribs fitted , gunnels bonded on and the forward wheel house. i will be fitting the deck , bulkhead , dash board and making the engine box all myself. sounds a lot of work but i love building boats.

i work with fibreglass so it should be pretty straight forward.

i have got some pics of the hull being laid up and will get more when the gunnels , ribs and wheel house are done.

i am building this boat as a pure fishing boat so any ideas suggestions on what sort of bits i can build to make it an even better boat will be very much appreciatted.

heres some pics of the hull in the mould. the pic of the wheelhouse is not mine but im having one the same as that.

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#4 ¡
cheers guys. can't wait to get started on it. im getting itchy fingers.
will post more pics up as soon as i get them. i will be popping in to wilsons tomorrow as i need to get them to fit the last ribs in for an inboard engine.
will get some more pics tomorrow ok:thumbs:
 
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steve i've been after one of these for years and when i sold my boat couple months ago i thought sod it im going to do it. so i went and placed an order for my new boat.

will be running inboard engine on a jet drive. i have got the jet drive. just need to find a decent diesel lump that will rev up to 5000 rpm as the jet drive needs revs to get its speed not just hp.
was going to go for a turbo transit engine but not sure if they rev to 5000rpm.
 
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Wilsons are great boat !!, plenty of deck space.

Always wondered how you get the mirror finish gel coat on fibreglass when using a mould, will watch this thread and find out !!:victory:
Assuming the mould will be coated with something to allow easy extraction....:wacko:
 
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Wilsons are great boat !!, plenty of deck space.

Always wondered how you get the mirror finish gel coat on fibreglass when using a mould, will watch this thread and find out !!:victory:
Assuming the mould will be coated with something to allow easy extraction....:wacko:
the mould is covered in a mould release wax and polished to a shiny finish then 2 coats of gelcoat is applied. once thats gone off you can apply the first layer of matt which is very crtical that you get all the air out. once the first layer is on then you can apply the rest of the matt up to the thickness.

the boat will pop out of the mould easy as the more you use the mould the easier it comes out.
 
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the mould is covered in a mould release wax and polished to a shiny finish then 2 coats of gelcoat is applied. once thats gone off you can apply the first layer of matt which is very crtical that you get all the air out. once the first layer is on then you can apply the rest of the matt up to the thickness.

the boat will pop out of the mould easy as the more you use the mould the easier it comes out.
:victory: Cheers Garry, I have done fibreglass on ply etc, but never seen it done via moulds
I will watch this thread and learn lots more !:bounce:
 
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:victory: Cheers Garry, I have done fibreglass on ply etc, but never seen it done via moulds
I will watch this thread and learn lots more !:bounce:
fibreglassing is easy. when you use fibreglass on ply make sure you pepper the ply so that the glass doe's not peel off.

if you lay up glass on ply over time it will release and start to lift up. if you go over the ply and drill 6mm holes about half way through the ply(don't drill right through) then apply the resin to the ply first so it soaks in to the holes then put the matt on and more resin and once its gone off it will never come away from the ply as the resin has soaked in to the ply laminates via the holes put in the ply.
 
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fibreglassing is easy. when you use fibreglass on ply make sure you pepper the ply so that the glass doe's not peel off.

if you lay up glass on ply over time it will release and start to lift up. if you go over the ply and drill 6mm holes about half way through the ply(don't drill right through) then apply the resin to the ply first so it soaks in to the holes then put the matt on and more resin and once its gone off it will never come away from the ply as the resin has soaked in to the ply laminates via the holes put in the ply.
Also, "hot coat" the ply with resin that is diluted 10% with acetone. this helps the resin soak in and bond.
Make sure you glass both sides of the deck and that you bond it down instead of screwing it down. Screws will work loose with the flexing of the hull.
 
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Also, "hot coat" the ply with resin that is diluted 10% with acetone. this helps the resin soak in and bond.
Make sure you glass both sides of the deck and that you bond it down instead of screwing it down. Screws will work loose with the flexing of the hull.
i will be glassing the under side of the ply before the deck go's in then 2 layers of 450 mat on the top side of deck. deck will be bonded down and screwed with stainless screws.
 
#13 ¡
Best of luck for your new build. Have a good inspection of the hull etc. I got my latest Flyer from Brian last year all bonded including deck. A couple of months after fitting out I was moving it on the trailer and heard water sloshing inside the hull. I went back to Brian, who said it was normal for water to be sucked into the hull when the temperature inside drops after a hot day. Thought that to be a load of boll**** and didn't get anywhere with him. I ended up cutting though the deck into each section, all but one contained 3 to 4 inches of water. Problem is now sorted with a few coats of deck paint.
Moral of this story is watch what your buying from Brian as the chap who works for him said that Brian dosn't actually do any of the work anymore, he just sits in his office all day.
Secondly as I paid cash in hand I haven't got any real comeback.
Thirdly if you get a trailer from him make sure it is big enough. He sold me a 750 kg. After taking off the weight of the boat I was left with 200kg for kitting out and I soon got there, fuel takes me over.
 
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Best of luck for your new build. Have a good inspection of the hull etc. I got my latest Flyer from Brian last year all bonded including deck. A couple of months after fitting out I was moving it on the trailer and heard water sloshing inside the hull. I went back to Brian, who said it was normal for water to be sucked into the hull when the temperature inside drops after a hot day. Thought that to be a load of boll**** and didn't get anywhere with him. I ended up cutting though the deck into each section, all but one contained 3 to 4 inches of water. Problem is now sorted with a few coats of deck paint.
Moral of this story is watch what your buying from Brian as the chap who works for him said that Brian dosn't actually do any of the work anymore, he just sits in his office all day.
Secondly as I paid cash in hand I haven't got any real comeback.
Thirdly if you get a trailer from him make sure it is big enough. He sold me a 750 kg. After taking off the weight of the boat I was left with 200kg for kitting out and I soon got there, fuel takes me over.
i've known brian for quite a few years. he's never actually built one the boats he sells. i know the chap that doe's all the work for him.

the reason i didn't get them to fit the deck is because i want to fit more ribs and drainage holes in the ribs incase any water does' get in under the deck.

i built boats for a company called catapult catamarans for a few years so know exactly what and how i want to build this one.

i will also fit auto bilge pumps under the deck just incase of water getting in there. will have access holes in deck so i can keep an eye on things.

i will also gel wash under the decks as well.
 
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Interesting project, good luck with it. Just wondering why are you fitting a jet drive? They tend to wear out very quickly. There is no real advantage in having a jet drive for "normal" boating, and lots of disadvantages.
 
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Interesting project, good luck with it. Just wondering why are you fitting a jet drive? They tend to wear out very quickly. There is no real advantage in having a jet drive for "normal" boating, and lots of disadvantages.
I was thinking that - wouldn't have a jet drive on an angling boat unless i was spending a lot of time in very shallow water.
 
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Interesting project, good luck with it. Just wondering why are you fitting a jet drive? They tend to wear out very quickly. There is no real advantage in having a jet drive for "normal" boating, and lots of disadvantages.
only fitting the jet drive as i got one very very cheap. wanted to build something different and now i've got the jet drive thats what its having on the back end along with a nice little 110hp turbo diesel lump.
 
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only fitting the jet drive as i got one very very cheap.
There could be a reason for that ;)

Looking forward to following the progress with the build, we like to see lots of pictures! You asked about add-ons, how about a built-in live well, with through-hull water take-up and over-side drain; built-in fish hold, baiting table, plenty of rod storage, capstan to double as pot hauler and anchor winch, mini kitchen in the cuddy for a brew-up, radar arch for all the aerials, day signals and lights (with or without radar), lots of electronics like a nice big multi-function screen, like a Garmin GPSMap 1008, Azimuth 1000 compass, AIS, integrated fishfinder so you can store GPS and depth data for plotting on Dr Depth. Nice classy custom graphics on the side, get them designed by someone cool and the vinyl cut by a vehicle signage company. Have a look at some American boats for ideas on that (Google "boat wrap" - Images)
 
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if i win the lottery i'll have all that fitted to the boat.

i've already got my garmin 451 chartplotter and a garmin 300c fishfinder.

the jetdrive was in use before i got it on a small speedboat fitted with an essex v6. was taken off the boat as it split an oil cooler pipe and the engine seized up. he lost interest in the boat so i got the jet drive.
 
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if i win the lottery i'll have all that fitted to the boat.

i've already got my garmin 451 chartplotter and a garmin 300c fishfinder.

the jetdrive was in use before i got it on a small speedboat fitted with an essex v6. was taken off the boat as it split an oil cooler pipe and the engine seized up. he lost interest in the boat so i got the jet drive.
if its the one in the pick on the other thread i would of thaught it hadnt been used in a good while as going a bit green in that pic ? do you know who you got it off ?
 
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its not been used for about 6 months but was in use before the engine seized up.

im going to strip it and fit new bearings and seals so i know its been done.

it is in very good condition apart from some paint flaking off in places.
 
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Some sweet pics, looks like it will be a stunning boat, keep the regular updates coming as lots of interest in it, have always wanted to do something like that.

May i ask, what sort of money will the hull cost you before you start any work on it your self ?

Rob.

Ps, Think you will struggle to get a transit engine to rev to 5k and have any sort of longevity !