Most times one gets what one pays for . However I have often wondered why so many followers of fishing boat 'in' fashion buy Warriors and at the price too!
They are not brilliantly finished and are way way more expensive than say a Sea Hog Samurai which has exactly the same hull.
Having now progressed to a really well made and finished boat I am still even further puzzeled by the attraction that these cuddy dinghys have particularly the 175 which has no advantages over the 165 apart from a little more room, yet it hangs on to all the vices of the 165.
Bumpy ride, bounced around in the slightest chop when at anchor, drafty, and wet.
Don't worry about the trunking, there are far more pertinent things wrong with them.

Afishionado

 

Well AF did you get out of bed on the wrong side this morning or are you just over tired?
Grumpy old sod sometimes!


The best stuff to use on boats is the opaque (spelling), lightweight hose of about an inch or an inch and half in diameter.

You know the stuff, it looks a bit like reinforced marine hose, but without the stiffness.
It will run round almost any part of the boat neatly, it's tough enough not to get crushed, it'll go around corners, it's wide enough to get several cables through it (and leave a "mouse" in you can really fill it up).

Neat, simple and cost effective and used on many boats built to a high standard.

Tom

 

It is his birthday today Tom, perhaps the realisation that he is now almost a pensioner is getting to him, lol:kissing:

 

Well AF did you get out of bed on the wrong side this morning or are you just over tired?
Grumpy old sod sometimes!


The best stuff to use on boats is the opaque (spelling), lightweight hose of about an inch or an inch and half in diameter.

You know the stuff, it looks a bit like reinforced marine hose, but without the stiffness.
It will run round almost any part of the boat neatly, it's tough enough not to get crushed, it'll go around corners, it's wide enough to get several cables through it (and leave a "mouse" in you can really fill it up).

Neat, simple and cost effective and used on many boats built to a high standard.

Tom

That sounds like a good idea, but what do they fix it with.
I would imagine it would be clips/saddles, you would not want put screws through the roof on a cuddy style or any single skinned cabin.
I have used these sticky tyrap bases, but stuck them on with araldite and held on with masking tape until the glue dried, before tying up the cables.
The beauty with the trunking with it large surface area, it can be fixed with silkaflex.
But I'm all ears to find better ways of keeping cables tidy, things can get messy once you have installed a few bits and pieces.
Rgds Tony

 

That sounds like a good idea, but what do they fix it with.
I would imagine it would be clips/saddles, you would not want put screws through the roof on a cuddy style or any single skinned cabin.
I have used these sticky tyrap bases, but stuck them on with araldite and held on with masking tape until the glue dried, before tying up the cables.
The beauty with the trunking with it large surface area, it can be fixed with silkaflex.
But I'm all ears to find better ways of keeping cables tidy, things can get messy once you have installed a few bits and pieces.
Rgds Tony

Typically, on boats of reasonable build quality you will find double skins anywhere that needs it for aesthetics or structural integrity. The bulk of cable runs are hidden within the double skins and there will be little access panels at strategic locations for running new cabling or for maintenance.

Areas where a cable run is not behind a double skin are usually out of sight anyway (behind a bulkhead, in the lazarette, in a cupboard, behind the main dash access panel). These areas the cables are usually simply cable tied out of the way and the cable ties trimmed for neatness and accessibility.

If an individual cable must still be seen then sikaflex still remains the boat builders buddy!

Tom

 

The 175, I seen at the factory the trunking and wiring was installed quite neatly.
I suppose it depends who fit's them out, it may not be always the same guy.
On the single skin of the cuddy you don't have a lot of choice.
The only other thing I have found is glueing tyrap bases on wth araldite, but you have to leave it untill next day to attach the cables.
Again Tom suggested hose but you still have to fix the saddles some how.
That silkaflex is pretty powerful stuff it might hold a saddle if given a chance to dry.
But back to the plastic trunking you can make a pretty tidy job with it, if you have the will, and the ability to do so.
Rgds TB.

 

I ran the cables from my new wiper motor across the cabin roof and down to the fuse box on my raider 18 wheelhouse using some D section self adhesive trunking with a flip over capping. It is just big enough to take the three cables required - about 10 mm so is not obtrusive. Dont expect the self adhesive to stick use Grip fix. Clean the surface first with acetone.
To get the trunking to look neat you need to cut mitres at the turns and also put the cables into the trunking before you glue it as to open and close the lid when it has got a bend in it is difficult.
To fix to the roof you need to chock it up in various places so it follows the curved contours of the roof.
Looks neat as it has a curved top - not the square box section stuff normally used.

 

Well AF did you get out of bed on the wrong side this morning or are you just over tired?
Grumpy old sod sometimes!


The best stuff to use on boats is the opaque (spelling), lightweight hose of about an inch or an inch and half in diameter.

You know the stuff, it looks a bit like reinforced marine hose, but without the stiffness.
It will run round almost any part of the boat neatly, it's tough enough not to get crushed, it'll go around corners, it's wide enough to get several cables through it (and leave a "mouse" in you can really fill it up).

Neat, simple and cost effective and used on many boats built to a high standard.

Tom

Well I wrote that just after returning from a trip as crew on a friends Warrior. It was the first trip out in another type of boat that I had had since getting the new one. The comparison was staggering!! Out on ours Tuesday then out on a Warrior Friday gave me a chance to experiance the two back to back so to speak. I was shocked to find what I had put up with , well actually thought was OK and as good as it got, compared with the new boat. Hence my answer, and although stated in straight from the hip style I still hold to my opinion.

Now back to the trunking..... When I was finishing off the Samurai and wanting it to look 'The Dogs' I did this.......
I was lucky enough to find a Double glazing team taking out some old teak framed d/g windows. Instead of putting all the old wood in a skip I asked for it and they were happy to see the back of it. In my workshop at home I have a table saw, bench sanders, and radial arm mitre saw so it was very easy for me to rip down the teak into laths about 3/16th" thick and run them through the planer and sander. With the subsequent finished laths I was able to build trunking in situ by first epoxying in the base lath then laying the wireing on then making U shaped sections of the laths and then putting them over the base lath and wireing to completely encase them.
Once varnished they looked (well to my mind) fabulous.

Afishionado

 

Well I wrote that just after returning from a trip as crew on a friends Warrior. It was the first trip out in another type of boat that I had had since getting the new one. The comparison was staggering!! Out on ours Tuesday then out on a Warrior Friday gave me a chance to experiance the two back to back so to speak. I was shocked to find what I had put up with , well actually thought was OK and as good as it got, compared with the new boat. Hence my answer, and although stated in straight from the hip style I still hold to my opinion.

Now back to the trunking..... When I was finishing off the Samurai and wanting it to look 'The Dogs' I did this.......
I was lucky enough to find a Double glazing team taking out some old teak framed d/g windows. Instead of putting all the old wood in a skip I asked for it and they were happy to see the back of it. In my workshop at home I have a table saw, bench sanders, and radial arm mitre saw so it was very easy for me to rip down the teak into laths about 3/16th" thick and run them through the planer and sander. With the subsequent finished laths I was able to build trunking in situ by first epoxying in the base lath then laying the wireing on then making U shaped sections of the laths and then putting them over the base lath and wireing to completely encase them.
Once varnished they looked (well to my mind) fabulous.

Afishionado

It's straying off the subject a bit, but interesting all same, which Warrior were you comparing it against [it's a Tomeau 625 you have now,If my memory serves me correctly] Even the 175 is a considerable bit smaller, lighter and cheaper.
Rgds TB.
PS Happy Birthday and many more of them.

 

[it's a Tomeau 625 you have now,.

I like that! I may even go into production and become a boat manufacturer....

 

i think the clear pipe tom mentions is food grade for milking machines ect any farm suppliers should have it hope this helps

 

I like that! I may even go into production and become a boat manufacturer....

You never know they might call one after you.
Rgds Tony

 

You never know they might call one after you.
Rgds Tony

"Beginning to grey fat early middle aged FISHER"

It doesn't exactly trip off the tongue does it?

They do contact me for advice on new models from time to time.
It's quite flattering really.
Do you remember a while back I started a thread asking for opinions on what people would theortically prefer.
Well Jeanneau listened to all the responses, I even directed the big cheeses to the thread on here and at the PBSBAC site. I gave reasoned arguments as to why "we" anglers had asked for certai features and wanted different things.
Again Jeanneau listened hard and then produced something totally different altogether... The new Merry Fisher 725!
Keep an eye out for it.

Tom

 

"Beginning to grey fat early middle aged FISHER"

It doesn't exactly trip off the tongue does it?

They do contact me for advice on new models from time to time.
It's quite flattering really.
Do you remember a while back I started a thread asking for opinions on what people would theortically prefer.
Well Jeanneau listened to all the responses, I even directed the big cheeses to the thread on here and at the PBSBAC site. I gave reasoned arguments as to why "we" anglers had asked for certai features and wanted different things.
Again Jeanneau listened hard and then produced something totally different altogether... The new Merry Fisher 725!
Keep an eye out for it.

Tom

Isn't the 585 Marlin a result of anglers idea's, for it's size it must have about the most usable fishing space plus standing height shelter in the cruiser/fisher market.
Rgds Tony

 

Isn't the 585 Marlin a result of anglers idea's, for it's size it must have about the most usable fishing space plus standing height shelter in the cruiser/fisher market.
Rgds Tony

Yep!!!
Also, IMHO, a BIG step ahead of it's class for sea keeping, handling (it has a baby keel for stability and steerage (this is also a huge boost when drifting), general usability in the form of walk around, low level side decks for anchoring / drifting, self draining decks, a decent size built in fuel tank, locking cabin with HUUUUGGGGGEEEEEE levels of storage and proper bunks should you wish to sleep over, finished to a high standard and a global dealer network for help, service, warranty etc.

The downside is it is a tincy bit more than one or two others, but as has been said, time and time again, but is often blinkered out by those who don't want to listen...
You get what you pay for.

Tom

 

Tomeau

LOVE IT!!!!

Answers later, as I am off to a birthday meal.

Afishionado